From: jmfbahciv on
In article <cIadnRExj-EqqtbYnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:eia884$8qk_011(a)s880.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <b0b87$454896c9$4fe760b$14253(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <4546F871.E7AD0EB5(a)hotmail.com>,
>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe
>>>>>>and other places in the world to ours.
>>>>>
>>>>>What !!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you being funny ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, he's not. There are a lot of Europeans who come to the US
>>>> to shop.
>>>
>>>There have been many flights bringing Europeans to shop at
>>>the Mall of America in Minnesota. Straight in, shop all day,
>>>get back on the plane the same day and go back.
>>
>> I hadn't heard that one.
>
>Neither had I. It seems unusual for people to fly over 10 hours each way to
>go shopping. The prices there really must be rock bottom.

Oh, I've heard of people going to Califoria (from Asia) and
Boston and NYC from Europe to buy stuff. I had not realized
that these shoppers had discovered that Mall.

/BAH

>
>> I suspect it would be the place to
>> go with everything in the same building.
>
>Strangely, we have things like that in Europe as well.
>
>
From: lucasea on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:eife05$8qk_002(a)s820.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <4549E5B2.FE517C00(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping !
>>>
>>> I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour
>>> groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the
>>> Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the
>>> store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk
>>> a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall.
>>>
>>> They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to
>>> look at a remarkable feat of the human species.
>>
>>Americans ???
>
> Not all were.

Translation: "yes, almost entirely."

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:454B3BC8.8C79824F(a)hotmail.com...
>
>
> JoeBloe wrote:
>
>> You're an absolute dipshit. It has ALWAYS been about our nation's
>> security.
>
> No it isn't.

Even Bush couldn't say it was, and keep a straight face. Eventually, he
started mumbling something about taking out an evil dictator that was
killing his own people, then faded off into silence on the issue.

Eric Lucas


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <454B3D79.250DEEA6(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping !
>> >>
>> >> I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour
>> >> groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the
>> >> Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the
>> >> store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk
>> >> a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall.
>> >>
>> >> They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to
>> >> look at a remarkable feat of the human species.
>> >
>> >Americans ???
>>
>> Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had
>> new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who
>> don't know how work gets done.
>
>I can't imagine what goes through their minds.

Oh, I can imagine. A good example is this thread.

>
>
>> That part of the Wall was amazing. We climbed it and walked it.
>> JMF has fear of heights. He wanted to go on (est. angle of
>> some of walk was >45 degrees). I looked back and then had to
>> look _down_. I figured I'd have to carry him back if we went any
>> further.
>
>I'm glad you enjoyed it.
>
>My time on mainland China was really just involved with business in the
Shenzhen
>area. I'd like to see more though.

I'm going to get up and look it up. I don't know where that
area is.
>
>I do like Hong Kong big time though !

Hong Kong was a amazing when were there. I don't know how
it has changed since China took it over, though.

/BAH
From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <d908b$454a26a8$4fe71d7$24805(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> In article <eicp5g$8qk_014(a)s950.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>In article <454952A9.54CB1E21(a)hotmail.com>,
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MooseFET wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where there's national health insurance, which is universal
>>>>>>>>>in any given country, where does the money come from? From
>>>>>>>>>the unemployed, perhaps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It also comes from the employers but less money is required so the US
>>>>>>>>employers who provide health insurance are placed at a disadvantage.
>>>>>>>>In the US health care costs about 60% more than in Canada so US
>>>>>>>>employers are at a disadvantage to that degree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There is some compensating advantage in that in Canada, you have to
>>>>>>>>spend hugely on heating so your workers don't freeze to death on the
>>>>>>>>shop floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really love this. You actually think you're getting
>>>>>>>something for nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's less expensive the 'socialist' way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hoodwinked. Bwahahahahahaha.
>>>>>
>>>>>Never.
>>>>
>>>>It's a simple fact.
>>>>
>>>>USA 2003 $1.7 trillion.
>>>>( $5666 per head of population )
>>>>http://www.kaiseredu.org/topics_im.asp?imID=1&parentID=61&id=358
>>>>
>>>>UK NHS budget ?76.4 billion.
>>>>( ? 1273 per head of population )
>>>>http://www.dh.gov.uk/PublicationsAndStatistics/PressReleases/PressReleases
No
>>
>> t
>>
>>>ices/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4127292&chk=HDOR9C
>>>
>>>>And of course in the USA it's only those with health insurance who get
>>
>> proper
>>
>>>>treatment.
>>>
>>>Wrong. I have insurance. I have no access to treatment unless
>>>I get "permission" from the primary care physician to whom I've
>>>been assigned. If you are already ill with an untreatable disease
>>>you have no access unless the PCP is cooperative. Mine isn't and
>>>nobody will take new patients who are already ill.
>>>
>>>That is why I'm trying to point out that having insurance is
>>>not a guarantee you will get access to treatment when you need it.
>>>The only thing our politicians are trying to do is to make
>>>the insurance available to all from a single payer, the US
>>>government. This will cause a decrease in access.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>>
>> Wrong. The gov't as payer has no reason to deny payments, unlike a
for-profit
>> private insurance company. Note that Medicare has far less overhead
expenses
>> than any private insurance company.
>
>
>Bullshit.
>

What, the Medicare datum? Look it up, damn it, before spouting off about
something you are obviously ignorant about.

>I am about to get onto the appeal merry-go-round with
>medicare about an MRI where they only approve a CT
>scan. I am allergic to iodine/shellfish based
>radiographic dye, so the alternative was prescribed
>by my physician.
>
>
>