From: unsettled on 2 Nov 2006 21:51 MooseFET wrote: > unsettled wrote: > >>MooseFET wrote: >> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Eeyore wrote: >>> >>>[....] >>> >>> >>>>>>>And of course some of these new drugs are just replacements for old one ( where a >>>>>>>patent has expired ) so a to get a new patent on the new ones and keep the prices >>>>>>>high. >>>>>> >>>>>>You obviously don't understand how patent applications work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I understand perfectly. >>>> >>>>If you actually uunderstand then you knew you were lying when you >>>>called new drugs "just replacements for old one." >>>> >>>>You can't get a patent for a new widget that's simply a replacement >>>>for an old one. >>> >>> >>>Where did you get that silly idea? At least two of my patents are for >>>a "widget" that replaces an older "widget". To get a patent, you don't >>>need to prove that it is better. You only need to prove that it is >>>different and works. >> >>You're right. It has to be different. So the new one doesn't >>simply clone the action of an earlier medicine. That's the >>point of this discussion. > > > That is not correct either. The action can be identical and the > chemical different and still get a patent. Can be does not mean it is. Chemicals are funny that way. > > >>In actual fact you don't even need to prove that >> >>>it works anymore. The US patent office no longer requires a working >>>model or any such solid physical proof. > >
From: Michael A. Terrell on 2 Nov 2006 22:05 unsettled wrote: > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > unsettled wrote: > > > > > >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> > >> > >>>And we're going to ram that tolerance down their throats? You whine about > >>>Muslims taking over the rest of the world and ramming their ideas down our > >>>throats. How do you think they feel about us taking over their country and > >>>ramming our ideals down their throats. Get a clue. > >> > >>Only the stupid hate it. > > > > > > Only *stupid ppl* hate having American values stuffed down their throats ? > > > > I guess that makes me stupid then ! > > When the foo shits, wear it. You're close! His last troll name was Pooh. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Michael A. Terrell on 2 Nov 2006 22:25 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > Yes. That's what our politicians want us to endure. I've listened > to Canadian wives whose husbands had to wait for treatment. They > were very critical of the medical systems. But they will never > say that out loud in front of their men because that would deflate > the confidence of these males in their health care. That loss can be > fatal for men. We have a "Stand down" scheduled for later this month. It is to help the disabled & homeless veterans in the area to get registered with the VA, and to provide immediate food, clothing and medical help, where possible. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: lucasea on 2 Nov 2006 23:26 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:882bd$454a8fff$49ecfd8$27366(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore wrote: >>> >>>>MooseFET wrote: >>>> >>>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for >>>>>>>>health care. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Could it be the drug costs that make this difference? >>>>>> >>>>>>Why do so may US medical practicioners prescibe expensive drugs when >>>>>>cheaper >>>>>>generics are just as good for mnay things ? >>>>> >>>>>Imagine that a drug company comes up with a new drug called >>>>>"Nopainatall". They send their field people out to talk to doctors an >>>>>sell them on the advantages of Nopainatall. They have studies and >>>>>graphs and all sorts of useful literature that calls the drug only by >>>>>its brand name not the chemical name. This is where doctors get a lot >>>>>of their information today. >>>> >>>> >>>>And of course some of these new drugs are just replacements for old one >>>>( where a >>>>patent has expired ) so a to get a new patent on the new ones and keep >>>>the prices >>>>high. >>> >>>You obviously don't understand how patent applications work. >> >> >> I understand perfectly. > > If you actually uunderstand then you knew you were lying when you > called new drugs "just replacements for old one." > > You can't get a patent for a new widget that's simply a replacement > for an old one. Uh...yes you can. It seems it's you that needs to learn a little about patents and how the system is manipulated. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 2 Nov 2006 23:39
"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:b44c0$454a9541$49ecfd8$27465(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> news:40570$454a2bd8$4fe71d7$24986(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>news:d38ed$454a0d9f$49ecfab$24139(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>> >>>> >>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:11089$45495c2e$4fe7052$20335(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>In article <4546F871.E7AD0EB5(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>>>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe >>>>>>>>>>>>and other places in the world to ours. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>What !!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Are you being funny ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>No, he's not. There are a lot of Europeans who come to the US >>>>>>>>>>to shop. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>There have been many flights bringing Europeans to shop at >>>>>>>>>the Mall of America in Minnesota. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Cite ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Stuff it, fool. I've been there and talked with some of >>>>>>>the people. I've also shopped at Gurnee Mills which is >>>>>>>a one story affair with a mile long zig-zag mall under >>>>>>>roof. I first ran into them there, later at Mall of >>>>>>>America. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Mall of America is so large, for your information, that >>>>>>>there's an amusement park in the center, including a >>>>>>>roller coaster. It set itself up to be an international >>>>>>>destination. You don't suppose that a setup like that >>>>>>>could be supported solely by sales to the Twin Cities >>>>>>>and Minnesota folks within an easy drive, do you? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>And yet despite all that, you still only have a handful of anecdotes >>>>> >>>>>>from a few travellers who have done it. Useless. If you're going to >>>>> >>>>>>claim "there have been many flights...", you better supply data on it, >>>>>>otherwise you're being hoodwinked by the very same thing you chastise >>>>>>other people for--seeing only the evidence they want to see. >>>>> >>>>>Bwahahahaha. Trying to create a hard science where there is none? >>>> >>>>Hey, I wasn't the one that made the unsupportable claim, based on a few >>>>anecdotes. >>> >>>BS, you do it constantly. >> >> >> Cite three examples, please. > > Just read your article just prior to this one, and the > two following it. They're full of unsupportable claims > coming from you, most of them made-up by you to > promote your anti-American views. If so, then you should surely be able to come up with three examples of unsupportable claims. We're still waiting. Eric Lucas > |