From: unsettled on
MooseFET wrote:

> unsettled wrote:
>
>>MooseFET wrote:
>>
>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>[....]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>And of course some of these new drugs are just replacements for old one ( where a
>>>>>>>patent has expired ) so a to get a new patent on the new ones and keep the prices
>>>>>>>high.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You obviously don't understand how patent applications work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand perfectly.
>>>>
>>>>If you actually uunderstand then you knew you were lying when you
>>>>called new drugs "just replacements for old one."
>>>>
>>>>You can't get a patent for a new widget that's simply a replacement
>>>>for an old one.
>>>
>>>
>>>Where did you get that silly idea? At least two of my patents are for
>>>a "widget" that replaces an older "widget". To get a patent, you don't
>>>need to prove that it is better. You only need to prove that it is
>>>different and works.
>>
>>You're right. It has to be different. So the new one doesn't
>>simply clone the action of an earlier medicine. That's the
>>point of this discussion.
>
>
> That is not correct either. The action can be identical and the
> chemical different and still get a patent.

Can be does not mean it is. Chemicals are funny that way.

>
>
>>In actual fact you don't even need to prove that
>>
>>>it works anymore. The US patent office no longer requires a working
>>>model or any such solid physical proof.
>
>
From: Michael A. Terrell on
unsettled wrote:
>
> Eeyore wrote:
>
> >
> > unsettled wrote:
> >
> >
> >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>And we're going to ram that tolerance down their throats? You whine about
> >>>Muslims taking over the rest of the world and ramming their ideas down our
> >>>throats. How do you think they feel about us taking over their country and
> >>>ramming our ideals down their throats. Get a clue.
> >>
> >>Only the stupid hate it.
> >
> >
> > Only *stupid ppl* hate having American values stuffed down their throats ?
> >
> > I guess that makes me stupid then !
>
> When the foo shits, wear it.


You're close! His last troll name was Pooh.


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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
From: Michael A. Terrell on
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> Yes. That's what our politicians want us to endure. I've listened
> to Canadian wives whose husbands had to wait for treatment. They
> were very critical of the medical systems. But they will never
> say that out loud in front of their men because that would deflate
> the confidence of these males in their health care. That loss can be
> fatal for men.


We have a "Stand down" scheduled for later this month. It is to help
the disabled & homeless veterans in the area to get registered with the
VA, and to provide immediate food, clothing and medical help, where
possible.


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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
news:882bd$454a8fff$49ecfd8$27366(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
> Eeyore wrote:
>
>>
>> unsettled wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>>MooseFET wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for
>>>>>>>>health care.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Could it be the drug costs that make this difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why do so may US medical practicioners prescibe expensive drugs when
>>>>>>cheaper
>>>>>>generics are just as good for mnay things ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Imagine that a drug company comes up with a new drug called
>>>>>"Nopainatall". They send their field people out to talk to doctors an
>>>>>sell them on the advantages of Nopainatall. They have studies and
>>>>>graphs and all sorts of useful literature that calls the drug only by
>>>>>its brand name not the chemical name. This is where doctors get a lot
>>>>>of their information today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And of course some of these new drugs are just replacements for old one
>>>>( where a
>>>>patent has expired ) so a to get a new patent on the new ones and keep
>>>>the prices
>>>>high.
>>>
>>>You obviously don't understand how patent applications work.
>>
>>
>> I understand perfectly.
>
> If you actually uunderstand then you knew you were lying when you
> called new drugs "just replacements for old one."
>
> You can't get a patent for a new widget that's simply a replacement
> for an old one.

Uh...yes you can. It seems it's you that needs to learn a little about
patents and how the system is manipulated.

Eric Lucas


From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
news:b44c0$454a9541$49ecfd8$27465(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
> lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>> news:40570$454a2bd8$4fe71d7$24986(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>
>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:d38ed$454a0d9f$49ecfab$24139(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:11089$45495c2e$4fe7052$20335(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In article <4546F871.E7AD0EB5(a)hotmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe
>>>>>>>>>>>>and other places in the world to ours.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Are you being funny ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>No, he's not. There are a lot of Europeans who come to the US
>>>>>>>>>>to shop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There have been many flights bringing Europeans to shop at
>>>>>>>>>the Mall of America in Minnesota.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cite ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stuff it, fool. I've been there and talked with some of
>>>>>>>the people. I've also shopped at Gurnee Mills which is
>>>>>>>a one story affair with a mile long zig-zag mall under
>>>>>>>roof. I first ran into them there, later at Mall of
>>>>>>>America.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mall of America is so large, for your information, that
>>>>>>>there's an amusement park in the center, including a
>>>>>>>roller coaster. It set itself up to be an international
>>>>>>>destination. You don't suppose that a setup like that
>>>>>>>could be supported solely by sales to the Twin Cities
>>>>>>>and Minnesota folks within an easy drive, do you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And yet despite all that, you still only have a handful of anecdotes
>>>>>
>>>>>>from a few travellers who have done it. Useless. If you're going to
>>>>>
>>>>>>claim "there have been many flights...", you better supply data on it,
>>>>>>otherwise you're being hoodwinked by the very same thing you chastise
>>>>>>other people for--seeing only the evidence they want to see.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bwahahahaha. Trying to create a hard science where there is none?
>>>>
>>>>Hey, I wasn't the one that made the unsupportable claim, based on a few
>>>>anecdotes.
>>>
>>>BS, you do it constantly.
>>
>>
>> Cite three examples, please.
>
> Just read your article just prior to this one, and the
> two following it. They're full of unsupportable claims
> coming from you, most of them made-up by you to
> promote your anti-American views.

If so, then you should surely be able to come up with three examples of
unsupportable claims. We're still waiting.

Eric Lucas
>