From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <VjT0h.22840$e66.20121(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45436FD6.3B0A4C75(a)hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow. You should market your filter. I know a few politicians
>>>> that would love to hand them out before every speech.
>>>
>>> Do you have anything useful to contribute ?
>>
>>Apparently she doesn't. Logic has failed her, so she just goes around
>>spouting Republican soundbites and acting holier-than-thou when people
>>dare
>>to question them.
>
> I seem to be making my points; I can tell when you start using
> circular logic to refute them.

Was that circular logic?


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <Gun2h.3654$B31.3169(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:eicnua$8qk_009(a)s950.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <691d6$4548e447$4fe7703$17646(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <8594c$45468e46$4fe716b$704(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Lga1h.2227$s6.11(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
>>>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:cb1d3$45452d8a$4fe72af$23817(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>snip
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Nothing about annihilation of western civilization is amusing.
>>>>>>>>>This is serious business and it will take another three massive
>>>>>>>>>killings before the insane politicians are thrown out and
>>>>>>>>>ones who are willing to deal with problem constructively are
>>>>>>>>>put back in power.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Those who persist in denying the announced and obvious
>>>>>>>>end up driving the defensive system towards an eventual
>>>>>>>>dictatorial authority.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hitler's Mein Kampf was not a secret. The agenda was
>>>>>>>>mapped out in advance. Militant Islam has been advocating
>>>>>>>>against the west for decades. Despite the protestations
>>>>>>>>of some, it is a religion spread by violence and has been
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the day that Mohammed decided he was heading up a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>new religion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If we look at British conduct in the face of Hitler's
>>>>>>>>growing menace, we see the same sorts of appeasement
>>>>>>>>as is being promoted in these related threads. In the
>>>>>>>>case of Britain, they eventually put Churchill in
>>>>>>>>charge. He was one of those "last choice" sorts of
>>>>>>>>men that the appeasers disdained. They historically
>>>>>>>>worked hard to derail him but there came a moment
>>>>>>>>of truth when they were finally unable to deny the
>>>>>>>>realities facing them any longer, and needed a
>>>>>>>>strong man to drive them towards victory. By that
>>>>>>>>time they were in trouble, so America was pulled
>>>>>>>>into the fray, with its own dictator style president
>>>>>>>>at the helm replaced eventually (after death) by a
>>>>>>>>sleeper sort of a strong man who didn't hesitate to
>>>>>>>>use the atomic bomb to end the Pacific war.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How many today would have the nerve to actually use a
>>>>>>>>nuclear weapon? Certainly none of the appeasers here
>>>>>>>>want that to happen, but by their actions they're
>>>>>>>>driving the system towards the point where other
>>>>>>>>options will cease to exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Unfortunately, with the sorts of "good human beings"
>>>>>>>>we're encountering in this newsgroup, we'll probably
>>>>>>>>evenually get to the point where we'll have to use
>>>>>>>>our own final solution to the problem by using nukes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>History has taught us that it is a much smaller mess
>>>>>>>>if you take care of business and protect yourself
>>>>>>>>early in the game, rather than late. Keep on ignoring
>>>>>>>>all of history folks. I'll be investing in uranium
>>>>>>>>futures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BAH--this is a new low for you. Self-congratulation and attacking
>>>>>>>other
>>>>>>>posters by using another screen name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Huh? I can't write that well. You will assume any posture just
>>>>>>to avoid the facts of what is really going on. I don't know
>>>>>>how to deal with this kind of insanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>By making this sort of accuation he's avoiding
>>>>>the issues. He didn't have a single point to
>>>>>make about the content of the post. And if
>>>>>one considers the content of his posting, it
>>>>>actually has nothing at all to do with what's
>>>>>above.
>>>>>
>>>>>If anyone deserves to be ignored, he does.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's not a viable choice. When the US gets its Democrat for
>>>> President, s/he/it will think, talk and act like Eric portrays
>>>> in this discussion. That's the only reason I've stayed here so
>>>> long.
>>>
>>>You mean like Kerry and his latest debacle?
>>
>>
>> Exactly. I knew he didn't like to work. What was really
>> weird is that the speech was so familiar; he'ld given a similar
>> sentiment when he was running for an office in 1972. At least the
>> news here reported that one. He's using his anti-Nam speeches.
>> The Democrats are turning this election year into another Nam
>> political tactic; so now I'm concentrating on reading about that
>> era.
>
>So you choose to listen to somebody who isn't even running for office,

Kerry? He's running for President.

>as an
>excuse to indict the Democrats, rather than actually listening to what the
>actual candidates are saying.

Our Democrat candidates are saying nothing other than, "Those
mean Republicans are picking me, poor me."

> Like I said, you listen very selectively, and
>only hear the bits that support your pre-existing belief structure. Nice
>basis for choosing your leaders.

You don't know what you're talking about. Up until this week
Kerry was running for President. His speech this week may have finished it.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4549E63D.35EDA11(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> I am not talking about oil becoming uncompetitive. I am talking
>> about oil suddenly becoming unavailable. That should be a
>> scenario considered by all heads of state, not just the US.
>
>It's not going to happen short of nuclear war.

Sigh! That will happen unless steps are taken to prevent the
mess.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <3c732$4549ec30$4fe7336$23388(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Eeyore wrote:
>
>>
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am not talking about oil becoming uncompetitive. I am talking
>>>about oil suddenly becoming unavailable. That should be a
>>>scenario considered by all heads of state, not just the US.
>>
>>
>> It's not going to happen short of nuclear war.
>
>You're obviously not old enough to personally
>remember the fuel crisis of the early 1970's.
>
Right. And it was made worse by Nixon instituting government
controls which made the supply even tighter and the mob
psychology go into berserk mode overnight.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <nHn2h.3660$B31.570(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>news:3c732$4549ec30$4fe7336$23388(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am not talking about oil becoming uncompetitive. I am talking
>>>>about oil suddenly becoming unavailable. That should be a
>>>>scenario considered by all heads of state, not just the US.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not going to happen short of nuclear war.
>>
>> You're obviously not old enough to personally
>> remember the fuel crisis of the early 1970's.
>
>First you say you're not talking about an embargo, then as evidence that it
>will happen, you point to an embargo. At least you could get your story
>straight....

The embargo was reducing deliveries to certain countries unless
they capitulated into obeying. I'm not talking about embargo.
I'm talking about stopping all production.

/BAH