From: lucasea on 4 Nov 2006 18:47 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:1eebb$454ca48a$4fe7327$8293(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > > If socialism were equitable, we'd have it in the US. Nice circular reasoning. > The entire point of socialism is the involuntary > redistribution of wealth. And it's closed-minded "I've got mine, you can't have any" attitudes like that that explain our lack of an effective national health care, not any lack of equitability. > If your NHS were equitable the poor would receive services > corresponding to their contribution, as would the wealthy. The poor don't get their right to free speech according to their wealth, why should they get their right to good health according to their wealth? Do you actually understand the concept that diseases that breed in the poor don't care who they infect, and often cause pandemics that cost society lots of money to cure? Wouldn't it make more sense to stop them before they get to that point? > If your NHS were equitable there would be no physicians > in private practice. Evidence, please. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 4 Nov 2006 18:49 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:dec59$454ca69e$4fe7327$8293(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > > I'm forced to conclude you stand there and say, > "What yellow brick road?". What an appropriate analogy, since you appear to live in such a fantasy world. Just tap your heels together three times, and maybe you'll wake up. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 4 Nov 2006 18:50 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:f3f6e$454ca6d1$4fe7327$8293(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I'm simply pointing out the factual reasons for the 1973 oil embargo. >>>> >>>>Do you want to rewrite history ? >>> >>>No, I'd like for the likes of you to breathe, live in, >>>and support the culture in which you live. >> >> >> Since I do that just fine right now I don't need your help then do I ? > > I'm forced to conclude that you stand there > and say, "What yellow brick road?". Tap those heels together, now. Just three times. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 4 Nov 2006 18:51 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:50f48$454ca6fd$4fe7327$8293(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I've been telling that the Democrat leadership are insane. >>> >>>It is an appeasement repeat taken from from Britain's >>>history at the early stages of WW1 and WW2. We can't >>>defend liberty by appeasing those who would end it. >> >> >> You think there was appeasement before / during WW1 ? >> >> You have some funny ideas. > > I'm forced to conclude you stand there > ans say, "What yellow brick road?". C'mon, now. You can do it. Just three times. Eric Lucas
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 18:54
lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:eii0o0$8ps_005(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <I7I2h.500$Mw.369(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eifeh1$8qk_004(a)s820.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>>>What counts with measuring the effectiveness of any social program >>>>is the individual stories, not the cut and dried percentages >>>>of service delivery counts. >>> >>>And yet you prefer to believe impersonal books when learning about what >>>Islam is all about, instead of talking to actual Muslims. >> >>What do you suggest? > > > How about talking to some actual Muslims before you make ridiculous > statements like "they grow up in a culture of violence". Start by asking them about female circumcision. Then ask them about female rights to ownership of property, female education, divorce laws. Ask what countries females can drive in. Ask them how many western women are trying to get custody of their children after a divorce. How about the practice of chopping the hand off a thief, or hanging a family member who dishonors the family? That's for starters. There's plenty more. |