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From: Bob on 8 Jun 2010 09:49
On 08/06/2010 14:41, jch wrote:
> FAQ #112 doesn't refer to reverting to back to original firmware from DDWRT
> or from any 3rd party firmware.
>

What do you perceive this referring to?
"go in DD-WRT to Administration tab - Firmware upgrade, and just
browse and upload the original stock firmware."
From: jch on 8 Jun 2010 10:16
Bob wrote:
> On 08/06/2010 14:41, jch wrote:
>> FAQ #112 doesn't refer to reverting to back to original firmware
>> from DDWRT or from any 3rd party firmware.
>>
>
> What do you perceive this referring to?
> "go in DD-WRT to Administration tab - Firmware upgrade, and just
> browse and upload the original stock firmware."

Sorry. Somehow I didn't see that line when I initially looked at this
section.


From: Kimmy Boyer on 8 Jun 2010 10:46
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:22:35 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 23:10:04 -0400, "jch" <jch(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I have a Linksys 160NL and I'm looking at the DD-WRT software but changing
>>to it makes me a little nervous as I'm pretty sure there's no going back. I
>>use DD-WRT for a WRT54G I've turned into a wireless bridge and its fine but
>>I've never heard much about the 160NL version.
>>Does anyone have any experience with the 160NL and DD-WRT software?
>
> Sorry, no experience with the 160NL,

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From: Jeff Liebermann on 8 Jun 2010 11:31
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:41:36 -0400, "jch" <jch(a)nospam.com> wrote:

>FAQ #112 doesn't refer to reverting to back to original firmware from DDWRT
>or from any 3rd party firmware.
>
>My concern was that because of the various prep and kill images needed to
>install DDWRT (like on my WRT54G v5.1) I couldn't go back to the original
>firmware. I'm not sure where I got that idea. I thought those special
>pre-images did something to prohibit going back. So.... I gather from the
>responses here that switching back and forth from DDWRT to Linksys firmware
>is not an issue?

There are no prep and kill steps for the WRT160NL. What you're
referring to is the VxWorks killer, which replaces the CPE (boot
loader) with one that will load anything, instead of just the approved
VxWorks bin file. That's not necessary with the WRT160NL. Please
make sure that you're reading the correct procedure as different model
routers have radically different steps.

The pre-image ordeal process is designed to circumvent a problem with
the stock Linksys firmware that limits the maximum size of the image.
DD-WRT is somewhat larger than the stock firmware and will not load
using the fireware update process from the stock firmware. So, it
becomes a two step process. A smaller image is first installed
(linksys-to-ddwrt-firmware.bin). Once that's working, the larger
running image (wrt160nl-firmware.bin) can safely be installed. There's
no problem going back to the smaller stock Linksys firmware from
DD-WRT because DD-WRT doesn't have the image size problem.

However, if you do decide to go back to the stock Linksys firmware,
and then decide to load DD-WRT again, you'll have to go through the
two step process again.

Where it does get complexicated is setting up an external flash drive,
printing, Bitorrent, Samba, and some customization.
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WRT160NL>
Note that these are optional and do not affect the basic operation of
DD-WRT. If you read the tutorial at:
<http://wrt160nl.org/files/wrt160nlmod.pdf>
only the very first step "Installing DD-WRT" is required to install
DD-WRT and get it running. The rest are all the modifications which
do NOT need to be un-done in order to revert to the stock firmware.


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From: jch on 8 Jun 2010 21:33
Thank you. I was never clear on why the various pre-image, prep, and kill
files needed to be loaded first. I thought somehow that precluded a return
to the Linksys firmware. I've now loaded and begun to play around with the
DD-WRT 14311 beta for the Linksys 160NL router. There's a feature present
in the micro generic version of 13064 (which I'm using on my WRT54Gv5.1
configured as a wireless bridge) which is not included on the later 14311
firmware - at least I can't find it. It gives the ability to automatically
shut on/off the router radio based on time of day. For example, I wanted to
shut down the wireless portion of my 160NL between say 12am and 6am. I can
do that with the 13064 firmware but not the 14311 - again unless I'm missing
it.

Other than issues like that, the 160NL seems to be comfortably running
DD-WRT. There are dozens of goodies which aren't defined in the help pages
which I'm unsure about. Guess I'll keep playing. Maybe later I'll try some
of the other mods possible with resident scripts.


Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> There are no prep and kill steps for the WRT160NL. What you're
> referring to is the VxWorks killer, which replaces the CPE (boot
> loader) with one that will load anything, instead of just the approved
> VxWorks bin file. That's not necessary with the WRT160NL. Please
> make sure that you're reading the correct procedure as different model
> routers have radically different steps.
>
> The pre-image ordeal process is designed to circumvent a problem with
> the stock Linksys firmware that limits the maximum size of the image.
> DD-WRT is somewhat larger than the stock firmware and will not load
> using the fireware update process from the stock firmware. So, it
> becomes a two step process. A smaller image is first installed
> (linksys-to-ddwrt-firmware.bin). Once that's working, the larger
> running image (wrt160nl-firmware.bin) can safely be installed. There's
> no problem going back to the smaller stock Linksys firmware from
> DD-WRT because DD-WRT doesn't have the image size problem.
>
> However, if you do decide to go back to the stock Linksys firmware,
> and then decide to load DD-WRT again, you'll have to go through the
> two step process again.
>
> Where it does get complexicated is setting up an external flash drive,
> printing, Bitorrent, Samba, and some customization.
> <http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WRT160NL>
> Note that these are optional and do not affect the basic operation of
> DD-WRT. If you read the tutorial at:
> <http://wrt160nl.org/files/wrt160nlmod.pdf>
> only the very first step "Installing DD-WRT" is required to install
> DD-WRT and get it running. The rest are all the modifications which
> do NOT need to be un-done in order to revert to the stock firmware.


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