Linux jobs outpacing Windows jobs
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From: Ignoramus13931 on 2 Nov 2009 23:24 On 2009-11-03, terryc <newsninespam-spam(a)woa.com.au> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:43:37 -0600, Ignoramus13931 wrote: > > >> I am much more optimistic about corporate Linux adoption, than adoption >> by clueless individual users. Corporations, at least, are receptive to >> the profit, cost and security motive. > > Users are receptive to the idea of being left up a creek without a paddle > in a foreign OS. When was the last time you helped someone install, learn > and use Linux? > Install, on Friday, learn, today at 4pm. i
From: terryc on 3 Nov 2009 06:16 On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:30 -0600, Ignoramus13931 wrote: >> > Install, on Friday, learn, today at 4pm. Thank you. Keep up the good work. There are plenty of them out there.
From: Robert Heller on 3 Nov 2009 07:22 At Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:23:08 -0600 Ignoramus13931 <ignoramus13931(a)NOSPAM.13931.invalid> wrote: > > On 2009-11-03, Matt <matt(a)themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote: > > Ignoramus13931 wrote: > >> As Windows jobs decline 8% from the beginning of the year, Linux > >> postings grew 6%. > >> > >> http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1373285,00.html > >> > >> What this essentially says, is that corporations are not nearly > >> averse to Linux as various research studies seem to show. > >> > >> If you ask me, the writing is on the wall. > >> > >> I am much more optimistic about corporate Linux adoption, than > >> adoption by clueless individual users. Corporations, at least, are > >> receptive to the profit, cost and security motive. > >> > >> i > > > > > > I strongly agree with your last paragraph above. It generalizes to any > > large organization, because they have the economies of scale to learn to > > administer Linux efficiently and to finance the migration. Best is > > schools, as there is little or no data to migrate. > > Economies of scale is where Linux shows its excellence, as you can > automate most system related things in Linux in a straightforward > manner. > > So you can have one Linux system admin who knows scripting, administer > many more machines than a comparably intelligent Windows admin. > > > Advocate to the guy next to you for practice and support. > > > > If you want things to change, advocate to the guy who has the power to > > change things. > > I think that what happens in corporations, such as some I have > observed, that Linux appears and begins to metastacize, slowly at > first and faster later. > > This is possibly a safer route to successful Linux migration than top > to bottom pronoucements such as "move everything to Linx next month". > > The downside is that the Microsoft tax is stil being paid this way, > but I consider this minor. It should be noted that OEMs like Dell sell *servers* withOUT an O/S pre-installed, so once the corp. starts installing *new* Linux *server* boxes, they wean themselves off the Microsoft Tax. And Dell also sells whitebox desktops as well, so if/when Linux lands on the corp. *desk*, there is the option of cutting off the Microsoft Tax there too. > > i > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller(a)deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
From: notbob on 3 Nov 2009 09:29 On 2009-11-03, Ignoramus13931 <ignoramus13931(a)NOSPAM.13931.invalid> wrote: > What this essentially says, is that corporations are not nearly > averse to Linux as various research studies seem to show. Many never were. Don't forget Unix was a major player long before M$ came along. Our company only dabbled in M$ networking when I was there. Not sure what happened after I left, but know many people who remained despised M$/Oracle in favor of the HP-UX environment that existed before the advent of PCs, which adapted quit nicely when they did appear. No doubt the big reel-to-reel mainframes have been replaced, but with what I don't know. Linux would be a shoe in. BTW, IBMs biggest cash cow remains their mainframes. I doubt anyone is running Windows on them and IBM is a major promoter of linux. nb
From: Matt on 3 Nov 2009 18:42
Ignoramus13931 wrote: > On 2009-11-03, Matt <matt(a)themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote: >> Ignoramus13931 wrote: >>> As Windows jobs decline 8% from the beginning of the year, Linux >>> postings grew 6%. >>> >>> http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1373285,00.html >>> >>> What this essentially says, is that corporations are not nearly >>> averse to Linux as various research studies seem to show. >>> >>> If you ask me, the writing is on the wall. >>> >>> I am much more optimistic about corporate Linux adoption, than >>> adoption by clueless individual users. Corporations, at least, are >>> receptive to the profit, cost and security motive. >>> >>> i >> >> I strongly agree with your last paragraph above. It generalizes to any >> large organization, because they have the economies of scale to learn to >> administer Linux efficiently and to finance the migration. Best is >> schools, as there is little or no data to migrate. > > Economies of scale is where Linux shows its excellence, as you can > automate most system related things in Linux in a straightforward > manner. > > So you can have one Linux system admin who knows scripting, administer > many more machines than a comparably intelligent Windows admin. > >> Advocate to the guy next to you for practice and support. >> >> If you want things to change, advocate to the guy who has the power to >> change things. > > I think that what happens in corporations, such as some I have > observed, that Linux appears and begins to metastacize, It attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. When one organization adopts Linux (or about any technology for that matter) the individuals in the organization become accustomed to it so that when they go home for the day or move to a different organization, they bring Linux with them. > slowly at > first and faster later. > > This is possibly a safer route to successful Linux migration than top > to bottom pronoucements such as "move everything to Linx next month". The metastasizing that you mention prepares the ground, to mix a couple of metaphors. > The downside is that the Microsoft tax is stil being paid this way, > but I consider this minor. > > i |