Linux jobs outpacing Windows jobs
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From: dennis on 4 Nov 2009 04:25 "Robert Heller" <heller(a)deepsoft.com> wrote in message news:6L2dnaHX0ueKU23XnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet... 8> > Which brings us full circle: Linux jobs outpacing Windows jobs. Somebody > is hiring *new* Linux Admins and NOT hiring new Windows Admins... Of course there is another explanation.. windows is getting easier to administer so you need less admin staff. Blame M$ for making it too easy. ;-)
From: Aragorn on 4 Nov 2009 08:29 On Wednesday 04 November 2009 10:25 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying as dennis(a)home wrote... > Of course there is another explanation.. > windows is getting easier to administer so you need less admin staff. > Blame M$ for making it too easy. ;-) This is true. Botnets are very easy to administer. You can control hundreds of thousands or even millions of Windows PCs from a single other Windows PC these days. <grin> -- *Aragorn* (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: chrisv on 4 Nov 2009 08:49 Aragorn wrote: >On Wednesday 04 November 2009 10:25 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody >identifying as dennis(a)home wrote... > >> Of course there is another explanation.. >> windows is getting easier to administer so you need less admin staff. >> Blame M$ for making it too easy. ;-) > >This is true. Botnets are very easy to administer. You can control >hundreds of thousands or even millions of Windows PCs from a single >other Windows PC these days. <grin> 8)
From: smr on 4 Nov 2009 09:19 K�hlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY! wrote: > Matt wrote: >> smr wrote: >>>>> It's always better to slowly shift people's perceptions of things - >>>>> "this is something we've been using to do some jobs in the company" as >>>>> opposed to "this is the new thing head office forced on us." But that >>>>> first box is a difficult issue - somebody needs to administrate that >>>>> single CUPS server. >>>> Which brings us full circle: Linux jobs outpacing Windows jobs. >>>> Somebody >>>> is hiring *new* Linux Admins and NOT hiring new Windows Admins... >>> >>> My post doesn't go quite full circle, my point is that companies that >>> gradually adopt into Linux need to start with a single installation - >>> "that first box". Eventually this leads to companies with a huge >>> installed base of Linux that really like it but initially it's lots of >>> machines running some other operating system and one running Linux. >>> >>> I would*n't* say that they would hire a new Linux admin at *that* point, >>> I think that's something the existing staff would handle. I'm saying >>> that at that point the existing staff need to administrate all of the >>> systems they had before as well as this new box that runs an entirely >>> new system - so what you're left with is relying on the current staff to >>> learn to professionally administrate a new operating system for a single >>> machine while doing their normal jobs at the same time. I'm saying >>> that's off putting to administrators. It's great once you start moving >>> lots of machines over to Linux and you can set up scripts that handle >>> lots of machines at once and that's where it really shines but it's >>> dealing with the hassle of the test machine that's a stumbling block. >> >> >> I'm thinking that more often, that first Linux box is being maintained >> mainly by whoever is using it, If that first user is not mainly a >> sysadmin, he asks permission to use Linux, and they say okay, but you >> have to maintain it yourself. Same thing happens if he is mainly a >> sysadmin, but then it might be that the guy was hired specifically as >> somebody who knows Linux and as somebody who can expose the other >> admins and their bosses to the practice of running Linux. That would >> be followed by incremental steps toward Linux by the company, stuff like: >> migrating the servers, switching some users to cross-platform FOSS >> apps such as OpenOffice, migrating one department as an experiment, >> and hiring more admins and other workers who have experience in both >> worlds. > > LOL, it's obvious no one here has been through any conversion effort > from one platform to another in any shape form or fashion. > > This is some kind of a total joke here, and it's two home users > conversing with each other. I thought it was two people talking in generalities (an idea or conclusion having general application) about the social pressures applying to people bringing Linux into their business but if you have specific details of what we're talking about I'd love you to add to the conversation.
From: chrisv on 4 Nov 2009 09:39
smr wrote: >K�hlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY! wrote: > >I thought it was two people talking in generalities (an idea or >conclusion having general application) about the social pressures >applying to people bringing Linux into their business but if you have >specific details of what we're talking about I'd love you to add to the >conversation. You can't discern that a 'nym like "K�hlmann is aka 'Petey Toro' OLAY!" is a worthelss troll? |