From: Tom Lane on
Magnus Hagander <magnus(a)hagander.net> writes:
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy(a)hub.org> wrote:
>> Not sure where the split would be, mind you ... almost thinking about patch review / discussions vs hashing out new features or something like that ...

> We just *discontinued* -patches.

Yeah, it's not time to reverse that decision.

regards, tom lane

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From: Simon Riggs on
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 10:23 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Sure. You did a huge job of getting HS done and I will try to help
> where I can, and I know you have a business to run
> (http://www.2ndquadrant.com/).

2ndQuadrant is in the end the main and final reason Hot Standby exists
and has now funded more than two-thirds of project costs, though the
support of many others is very much appreciated. Luckily the business is
successful and there are marketing and administration people to handle
commercial matters now, while the team is working on open source
projects and advocacy. As a privately held company it's easier to
control our own destiny. Offering 24/7 support helps fund more time on
open source development projects from all members of the now much
expanded tech team.

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From: "Marc G. Fournier" on
On Tue, 11 May 2010, Alvaro Herrera wrote:

> Excerpts from Marc G. Fournier's message of mar may 11 09:58:34 -0400 2010:
>
>> If list traffic, especially on -hackers, is getting so large, should we
>> look at maybe splitting it? I could easily enough split things such that
>> I duplicate the subscriber list, so nobody would have to subscribe, but it
>> would make it easier for ppl to filter their incoming ... ?
>
> Maybe we could create a separate list where people would send patches,
> and keep patchless discussion on -hackers?
>
> Just a thought ;-)

The thing is, it seems to me, especially now that we have such strong
commit fests, that we should have a seperate form for 'design phase' then
for 'reivew discusions' ... *shrug*

There may be some that are interested in what is being implemented, but
don't really care about how it was implemented ...

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From: Alvaro Herrera on
Excerpts from Marc G. Fournier's message of mar may 11 09:58:34 -0400 2010:

> If list traffic, especially on -hackers, is getting so large, should we
> look at maybe splitting it? I could easily enough split things such that
> I duplicate the subscriber list, so nobody would have to subscribe, but it
> would make it easier for ppl to filter their incoming ... ?

Maybe we could create a separate list where people would send patches,
and keep patchless discussion on -hackers?

Just a thought ;-)
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From: Robert Haas on
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy(a)hub.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2010, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>
>> Excerpts from Marc G. Fournier's message of mar may 11 09:58:34 -0400
>> 2010:
>>
>>> If list traffic, especially on -hackers, is getting so large, should we
>>> look at maybe splitting it?  I could easily enough split things such that
>>> I duplicate the subscriber list, so nobody would have to subscribe, but
>>> it
>>> would make it easier for ppl to filter their incoming ... ?
>>
>> Maybe we could create a separate list where people would send patches,
>> and keep patchless discussion on -hackers?
>>
>> Just a thought ;-)
>
> The thing is, it seems to me, especially now that we have such strong commit
> fests, that we should have a seperate form for 'design phase' then for
> 'reivew discusions' ... *shrug*
>
> There may be some that are interested in what is being implemented, but
> don't really care about how it was implemented ...

The difference between discussing a patch and discussing an idea that
might lead to a patch is fairly fine. Exactly how far people go with
the design discussion before reducing it to code varies from person to
person and project to project. I think the way to satisfy the people
who want to know what but not how is through vehicles like PWN and
blog postings.

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