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From: Greg Stark on 12 May 2010 18:43 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The difference between discussing a patch and discussing an idea that > might lead to a patch is fairly fine. And importantly -- who would be able to subscribe to one and not the other? If you have to subscribe to both to get make any sense of things then there's no point. Fwiw I'm having trouble keeping up these days too. And I'm quite accustomed to very heavy traffic email. I've been throwing all postgres related lists into one folder and skimmed through it looking for important threads. However this has now broken down. There are about 45 new threads every day. I've been travelling for a bit and am now 1,500 threads behind... If we can find a way to split the content sensibly so I could stop reading some of it that would be helpful. But cutting splitting it along subject matter where both sets of subject matter need to be seen by the same people doesn't really help. I'm thinking I'll move -general (and the useless -novice) to another folder. But I'm left wondering what to do with -admin and -performance. They're a random mix of user content and developer content. I'll probably move them along with -general but that means I won't be likely to see any development discussion on them in the future. -- greg -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 13 May 2010 14:05 My thought had been a split along the lines of major components of the server ... for instance, a totally seperate list for HS related issues, so that, if nothing else, those 'lurkers' that are only interested in developments on that front could be there but not on the main stream -hackers ... almost like seperate working groups ... Twas just a thought ... On Wed, 12 May 2010, Greg Stark wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> The difference between discussing a patch and discussing an idea that >> might lead to a patch is fairly fine. > > And importantly -- who would be able to subscribe to one and not the > other? If you have to subscribe to both to get make any sense of > things then there's no point. > > Fwiw I'm having trouble keeping up these days too. And I'm quite > accustomed to very heavy traffic email. I've been throwing all > postgres related lists into one folder and skimmed through it looking > for important threads. However this has now broken down. There are > about 45 new threads every day. I've been travelling for a bit and am > now 1,500 threads behind... > > If we can find a way to split the content sensibly so I could stop > reading some of it that would be helpful. But cutting splitting it > along subject matter where both sets of subject matter need to be seen > by the same people doesn't really help. > > I'm thinking I'll move -general (and the useless -novice) to another > folder. But I'm left wondering what to do with -admin and > -performance. They're a random mix of user content and developer > content. I'll probably move them along with -general but that means I > won't be likely to see any development discussion on them in the > future. > > > > > -- > greg > > -- > Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy(a)hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy(a)hub.org -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Yeb Havinga on 13 May 2010 15:06 Greg Stark wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The difference between discussing a patch and discussing an idea that >> might lead to a patch is fairly fine. >> > > And importantly -- who would be able to subscribe to one and not the > other? If you have to subscribe to both to get make any sense of > things then there's no point. > > Fwiw I'm having trouble keeping up these days too. And I'm quite > accustomed to very heavy traffic email. I've been throwing all > postgres related lists into one folder and skimmed through it looking > for important threads. However this has now broken down. There are > about 45 new threads every day. I've been travelling for a bit and am > now 1,500 threads behind... > I've only been actively reading the pg lists for a few months now, after several previous attempts that failed mainly because the way I set it up did not work nice, mainly because of the volume. I tried digests, didn't like it (how to reply?), also didn't like that the pg mails that were so many completely swamped the 'main' email I use. Now I made a new gmail account, subscribed to all lists with some volume and let it all message per message come into the inbox. Together with thunderbird/imap this works quite nicely. With filters it's possible to tag interesting messages (like does the To: contain my email? -> tag it so it becomes green). Now I only need to view unread mails, (by thread or date), read some messages and then ctrl-shift-c - all read. My $0.02 - I like the whole 'don't sort, search' (or how did they call it?) just let the inbox fill up, google is fast enough. What would be really interesting is to have some extra 'tags/headers' added to the emails (document classification with e.g. self organizing map/kohonen), so my local filters could make labels based on that, instead of perhaps badly spelled keywords in subjects or message body. regards, Yeb Havinga -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Magnus Hagander on 13 May 2010 16:37 On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy(a)hub.org> wrote: > > My thought had been a split along the lines of major components of the server ... for instance, a totally seperate list for HS related issues, so that, if nothing else, those 'lurkers' that are only interested in developments on that front could be there but not on the main stream -hackers ... almost like seperate working groups ... We tried that with pgsql-hackers-win32 and iirc also pgsql-hackers-pitr, and it was a big failure... -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 13 May 2010 16:43
On Thu, 13 May 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy(a)hub.org> wrote: >> >> My thought had been a split along the lines of major components of the server ... for instance, a totally seperate list for HS related issues, so that, if nothing else, those 'lurkers' that are only interested in developments on that front could be there but not on the main stream -hackers ... almost like seperate working groups ... > > We tried that with pgsql-hackers-win32 and iirc also > pgsql-hackers-pitr, and it was a big failure... But, we are doing that now with pgsql-cluster-hackers and it looks to be working quite well from what I can see ... guess it depends on if ppl want it to fail in the first place or not *shrug* It also depends if a clear line can be drawn and adhered to ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy(a)hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy(a)hub.org -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers |