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From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 14 May 2010 10:42 On Fri, 14 May 2010, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > >> There is no reason why advocacy can't happen on general. Theoretically >> www could be on hackers (although I do see the point of a separate >> list). > > I don't feel as strong about -advocacy being removed, but we certainly > can fold in -sql and -admin. Would anyone argue against rolling those > two (sql and admin) into -general as a first step? Question ... we have, right now: -sql : how to write a query -performance : how to improve performance of my queries -admin : how to admin the server -novice : I'm a new user -odbc : how to use ... -php : php related interface questions -interfaces : more general then -odbc why not close down -general so that ppl *have* to use better pick where to post their question ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy(a)hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy(a)hub.org -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 14 May 2010 10:44 On Fri, 14 May 2010, Kevin Grittner wrote: > "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg(a)turnstep.com> wrote: > >> Would anyone argue against rolling those two (sql and admin) into >> -general as a first step? > > At the risk of repeating myself, I won't be able to keep up with the > traffic of the combined list; so rather than read 100% of the > messages from a smaller set, I'll need to pick and choose based on > subject line or some such. I get the impression that other people, > who read different subsets of the lists, will be forced to a similar > change. That may result in either some posts "slipping through the > cracks" or in increasing the burden of responding to the posts for > those brave few who wade through them all. That's what I find with the freebsd-questions list ... there is so much noise in there that I tend to avoid posting to it for fear that my email will just get skip'd over ... I am definitely against *merging* lists ... getting rid of the 'meta list' makes more sense so as to force ppl to *use* the smaller lists then to merge smaller lists and *increase* the noise on one of them ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy(a)hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy(a)hub.org -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Kevin Grittner" on 14 May 2010 10:56 "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(a)hub.org> wrote: > -sql : how to write a query > -performance : how to improve performance of my queries > -admin : how to admin the server > -novice : I'm a new user > -odbc : how to use ... > -php : php related interface questions > -interfaces : more general then -odbc > > why not close down -general so that ppl *have* to use better pick > where to post their question ... That's a change I could support. I even think the descriptions are pretty close to what should show. In trying to think what might be missing, I wonder whether we could decrease inappropriate traffic on the -bugs list if we had a "feature request" list, for end users not prepared to discuss things at the level appropriate for -hackers, but who think that PostgreSQL should support some feature they don't see. -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Tom Lane on 14 May 2010 11:21 "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy(a)hub.org> writes: > why not close down -general so that ppl *have* to use better pick where to > post their question ... I can't imagine that there's not going to need to be a "catchall" list for problems that don't fit into any of the subcategories. More generally, we already have most of the lists that you suggest, and we already know that people frequently don't find the most appropriate list for postings. I don't think getting rid of -general would help that in the least. The way to cut down on misposted traffic is to make the set of categories smaller and simpler, not to redouble our efforts to persuade people to use the same or even more categories. BTW, as far as "no crossposting" goes: usually when I find myself doing that, it's to redirect a thread that started on -bugs or -general into -hackers. I don't see the need for that going away. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Marc G. Fournier" on 14 May 2010 11:37
On Fri, 14 May 2010, Yeb Havinga wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> On Thu, 13 May 2010, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> >>> Excerpts from Yeb Havinga's message of jue may 13 15:06:53 -0400 2010: >>> >>>> My $0.02 - I like the whole 'don't sort, search' (or how did they call >>>> it?) just let the inbox fill up, google is fast enough. What would be >>>> really interesting is to have some extra 'tags/headers' added to the >>>> emails (document classification with e.g. self organizing map/kohonen), >>>> so my local filters could make labels based on that, instead of perhaps >>>> badly spelled keywords in subjects or message body. >> >> I missed this when I read it the first time .. all list email does have an >> X-Mailing-List header added so that you can label based on list itself ... >> is that what you mean, or are you thinking of something else entirely? > Something else: if automatic classification of articles was in place, there > would be need of fewer mailing lists, depending on the quality of the > classification. You've mentinoed this serveral time, but what *is* "autoclassication of articles"? or is this something you do on the gmail side of things? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy(a)hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy(a)hub.org -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers |