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From: Tom Serface on 22 Feb 2010 13:43 LOL... I want one. "Bo Persson" <bop(a)gmb.dk> wrote in message news:7ug0q9FcpoU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Tom Serface wrote: >> Probably why they were encouraged to create this: >> >> http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/nrsurapaneni/4MSNET12052005053040AM/4MSNET.aspx >> >> I'm pretty sure I'd never use it since C# is so much easier, but >> it's only syntax. >> >> Tom > > Some code will never run on .NET anyway, because it needs a couple of > these as well :-) > > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/index.html > > > Bo Persson > > >> >> "Bo Persson" <bop(a)gmb.dk> wrote in message >> news:7ufvduF42dU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> Cholo Lennon wrote: >>>> Cholo Lennon wrote: >>>>> Ajay Kalra wrote: >>>>>> On Feb 22, 10:54 am, Joseph M. Newcomer <newco...(a)flounder.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> There are more VC++ developers than VB or C#. Again, >>>>>>> unclassified industry data. >>>>>>> (Actually, this surprised me, because about ten years ago, the >>>>>>> balance was quite >>>>>>> different). >>>>>> >>>>>> That doesnt sound right. I believe VB developers easily >>>>>> surpassed C++ 10 years ago. I would be surprised if thats not >>>>>> the case with C# today. Where I work now (and for last 5+ >>>>>> years), we have gone from 100% C++ to less than 30% C++. GUI is >>>>>> completely out of C++ and has been for many years. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ajay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, this index doesn't represent the absolute truth, but you >>>>> can get an idea about the popularity of programming languages: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Acording to this index (9 years old), VB was never as popular as >>>>> C++ (besides other variables, IMHO popularity is thightly coupled >>>>> to the number of developers) >>>>> >>>> >>>> My mistake, according to this index, at least in 1985 (?) Vb was >>>> more popular than C++ >>>> >>> >>> This "most popular" means most talked about, not the most used. >>> >>> For example, I also use Cobol (position 26, 0.437%) to support a >>> code base of millions of lines of proprietary code. We don't have >>> a lot of forums discussing this, so it is not "popular" anymore. >>> No marketing either. Some of the other languages are "more popular" >>> because they have a >>> large marketing organization promoting the traffic that Tiobe >>> measures. Bo Persson > > >
From: Cholo Lennon on 22 Feb 2010 14:36 Bo Persson wrote: > Cholo Lennon wrote: >> Cholo Lennon wrote: >>> Ajay Kalra wrote: >>>> On Feb 22, 10:54 am, Joseph M. Newcomer <newco...(a)flounder.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> There are more VC++ developers than VB or C#. Again, >>>>> unclassified industry data. >>>>> (Actually, this surprised me, because about ten years ago, the >>>>> balance was quite >>>>> different). >>>> That doesnt sound right. I believe VB developers easily surpassed >>>> C++ 10 years ago. I would be surprised if thats not the case with >>>> C# today. Where I work now (and for last 5+ years), we have gone >>>> from 100% C++ to less than 30% C++. GUI is completely out of C++ >>>> and has been for many years. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ajay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Well, this index doesn't represent the absolute truth, but you can >>> get an idea about the popularity of programming languages: >>> >>> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html >>> >>> Acording to this index (9 years old), VB was never as popular as >>> C++ (besides other variables, IMHO popularity is thightly coupled >>> to the number of developers) >>> >> My mistake, according to this index, at least in 1985 (?) Vb was >> more popular than C++ >> > > This "most popular" means most talked about, not the most used. > > For example, I also use Cobol (position 26, 0.437%) to support a code > base of millions of lines of proprietary code. We don't have a lot of > forums discussing this, so it is not "popular" anymore. No marketing > either. > Well, it's difficult to say (and measure) which is the most popular language. The popularity is a combination of several variables like # of developers, # of written code lines, # of resources, etc, etc. Tiobe index is for me just "an opinion" among other. > > Some of the other languages are "more popular" because they have a > large marketing organization promoting the traffic that Tiobe > measures. > I agree with you (this explain why google's Go is "so" popular in Tiobe index). BTW take a look to: http://blog.timbunce.org/2009/05/17/tiobe-index-is-being-gamed/ > > Bo Persson > > Regards -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG
From: Pete Delgado on 22 Feb 2010 15:07 "Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote in message news:ppvtn5tu7cdh0lj3s7ntqbtj6fo9d0is4d(a)4ax.com... > Joseph it is with great pride I am informing you the VC++ MVPs have > selected you as the > C++ MVP of the year > ==================================== > > Of the remaining 19 recipients, one of the others was also from the VC++ > MVPs, Mike Ryan. > We were both slightly amazed at all this, especially because we had no > idea until Monday > that this was even a possibility. Congratulations! I always find your posts informative and insightful! -Pete
From: Ajay Kalra on 22 Feb 2010 15:37 > It was nice to see you last week (and the others). I didnt even know that it took place :-( -- Ajay
From: Drew on 22 Feb 2010 17:19
"Ajay Kalra" <ajaykalra(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ba5a3f4f-f7dc-4d73-9cc0-b3c36fbd58ce(a)t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com... On Feb 22, 10:54 am, Joseph M. Newcomer <newco...(a)flounder.com> wrote: > There are more VC++ developers than VB or C#. Again, unclassified industry > data. > (Actually, this surprised me, because about ten years ago, the balance was > quite > different). That doesnt sound right. I believe VB developers easily surpassed C++ 10 years ago. I would be surprised if thats not the case with C# today. Where I work now (and for last 5+ years), we have gone from 100% C++ to less than 30% C++. GUI is completely out of C++ and has been for many years. Maybe VB6 but not VB.NET (just guessing). Drew -- Ajay |