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From: mpc755 on 4 May 2010 11:59 On May 4, 9:53 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On May 4, 8:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 3:11 am, Ralph Garbage <ralph.rabbi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 3, 10:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 2:32 am, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 4/05/2010 5:54 AM, PD wrote: > > > > > > > On May 3, 10:14 am, Ralph Garbage<ralph.rabbi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On May 3, 6:30 am, PD<thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>> On May 2, 9:22 pm, mpc755<mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> On May 2, 2:39 am, mpc755<mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba<bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > > > > > >>>>>>> matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > > > >>>>>>> aether's state of displacement. > > > > > > >>>>>> And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it > > > > > >>>>>> is its state of actuality - ie non existent. > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks > > > > > >>>>>> Bill > > > > > > >>>>> Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed. > > > > > >>>>> Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect. > > > > > > >>>>> A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is > > > > > >>>>> at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an > > > > > >>>>> individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in > > > > > >>>>> the aether. > > > > > > >>>>> Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity > > > > > >>>>> as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what > > > > > >>>>> is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every > > > > > >>>>> nucleus which is the matter which is the object. > > > > > > >>>>> 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > > >>>>> by the double solution theory > > > > > >>>>> Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > > >>>>> "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > > >>>>> wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > > >>>>> of an external field acting on the particle." > > > > > > >>>>> "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > > > > > >>>>> theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > > > > > >>>>> where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > > > > > >>>>> natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > > > > > >>>>> be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > > > > > >>>>> located." > > > > > > >>>>> de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > > > > > >>>>> and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > > > > > >>>>> the wave. > > > > > > >>>>> In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment > > > > > >>>>> the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and > > > > > >>>>> exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. > > > > > > >>>>> A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. > > > > > > >>>>> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > >>>>> C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > > >>>>> C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > >>>>> experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > >>>>> the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > > > > >>>>> it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > >>>>> travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > > > > >>>>> associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > > > > >>>>> there is no interference. > > > > > > >>>>> The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity. > > > > > > >>>>> Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate > > > > > >>>>> displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past > > > > > >>>>> the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the > > > > > >>>>> plates forces the plates together. > > > > > > >>>>> While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the > > > > > >>>>> exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single > > > > > >>>>> slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and > > > > > >>>>> removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an > > > > > >>>>> interference pattern. > > > > > > >>>>> Explain how this is possible. > > > > > > >>>>> In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether > > > > > >>>>> displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a > > > > > >>>>> single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave > > > > > >>>>> in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement > > > > > >>>>> wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the > > > > > >>>>> direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the > > > > > >>>>> slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e.. turns the > > > > > >>>>> wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > >>>>> Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or > > > > > >>>>> should I wait 24 hours? > > > > > > >>>> <crickets> > > > > > > >>>> No one has been able to answer the question except for the one person > > > > > >>>> who insists the future determines the past. There is something > > > > > >>>> incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer > > > > > >>>> such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is > > > > > >>>> evidence you do not understand the physics of nature. > > > > > > >>> This is the "dare you to convince me" model of usenet interaction. As > > > > > >>> in, "convince me you're right, or you're wrong." Of course, there's no > > > > > >>> point in trying to convince a babbling psychopath or a stick of butter > > > > > >>> or a rusty horseshoe. There are better ways to spend one's time than > > > > > >>> to work hard to respond to things like this. > > > > > > >> I completely agree > > > > > > >> with MPC! > > > > > > > You certainly have the option of engaging with him. I've learned his > > > > > > personality quirks and have found it to be a complete waste of time to > > > > > > engage with him seriously. He's too funny to ignore completely, but > > > > > > not so funny that he deserves more attention, especially since that's > > > > > > what he craves. > > > > > > Too true. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Bill > > > > > The poster is not engaging with me, the poster is agreeing with me. > > > > The poster agrees a moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether > > > > displacement wave. > > > > If that's what I was agreeing with then I must be stupid. > > > That's what you were agreeing with. > > > While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the > > exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single > > slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and > > removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an > > interference pattern. > > > Explain how this is possible. > > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether > > displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a > > single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave > > in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement > > wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the > > direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the > > slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the > > wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Mass and energy Mass and gravity Gravity and inertia space and time > universes and universes are all part of natures balancing acts. They > all can be considered equal. Einstein 100 years ago(1905) gave us > E=MC^2 In 1946 I gave my equasion G=EMC^2 It fits TreBert Aether and matter are different states of the same material. I named this material mæther. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Mass does not convert to energy. Mass and energy are not equal. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of displacement. Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on 4 May 2010 12:03 On May 4, 9:53 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On May 4, 8:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 3:11 am, Ralph Garbage <ralph.rabbi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 3, 10:39 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 2:32 am, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 4/05/2010 5:54 AM, PD wrote: > > > > > > > On May 3, 10:14 am, Ralph Garbage<ralph.rabbi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On May 3, 6:30 am, PD<thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>> On May 2, 9:22 pm, mpc755<mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> On May 2, 2:39 am, mpc755<mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba<bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > > > > > >>>>>>> matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > > > > > >>>>>>> aether's state of displacement. > > > > > > >>>>>> And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it > > > > > >>>>>> is its state of actuality - ie non existent. > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks > > > > > >>>>>> Bill > > > > > > >>>>> Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed. > > > > > >>>>> Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect. > > > > > > >>>>> A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is > > > > > >>>>> at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an > > > > > >>>>> individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in > > > > > >>>>> the aether. > > > > > > >>>>> Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity > > > > > >>>>> as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what > > > > > >>>>> is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every > > > > > >>>>> nucleus which is the matter which is the object. > > > > > > >>>>> 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > > >>>>> by the double solution theory > > > > > >>>>> Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > > >>>>> "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > > >>>>> wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > > >>>>> of an external field acting on the particle." > > > > > > >>>>> "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > > > > > >>>>> theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > > > > > >>>>> where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > > > > > >>>>> natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > > > > > >>>>> be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > > > > > >>>>> located." > > > > > > >>>>> de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > > > > > >>>>> and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > > > > > >>>>> the wave. > > > > > > >>>>> In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment > > > > > >>>>> the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and > > > > > >>>>> exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. > > > > > > >>>>> A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. > > > > > > >>>>> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > >>>>> C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > > >>>>> C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > >>>>> experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > >>>>> the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits > > > > > >>>>> it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > >>>>> travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the > > > > > >>>>> associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and > > > > > >>>>> there is no interference. > > > > > > >>>>> The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity. > > > > > > >>>>> Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate > > > > > >>>>> displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past > > > > > >>>>> the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the > > > > > >>>>> plates forces the plates together. > > > > > > >>>>> While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the > > > > > >>>>> exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single > > > > > >>>>> slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and > > > > > >>>>> removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an > > > > > >>>>> interference pattern. > > > > > > >>>>> Explain how this is possible. > > > > > > >>>>> In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether > > > > > >>>>> displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a > > > > > >>>>> single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave > > > > > >>>>> in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement > > > > > >>>>> wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the > > > > > >>>>> direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the > > > > > >>>>> slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e.. turns the > > > > > >>>>> wave into chop) and there is no interference. > > > > > > >>>>> Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or > > > > > >>>>> should I wait 24 hours? > > > > > > >>>> <crickets> > > > > > > >>>> No one has been able to answer the question except for the one person > > > > > >>>> who insists the future determines the past. There is something > > > > > >>>> incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer > > > > > >>>> such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is > > > > > >>>> evidence you do not understand the physics of nature. > > > > > > >>> This is the "dare you to convince me" model of usenet interaction. As > > > > > >>> in, "convince me you're right, or you're wrong." Of course, there's no > > > > > >>> point in trying to convince a babbling psychopath or a stick of butter > > > > > >>> or a rusty horseshoe. There are better ways to spend one's time than > > > > > >>> to work hard to respond to things like this. > > > > > > >> I completely agree > > > > > > >> with MPC! > > > > > > > You certainly have the option of engaging with him. I've learned his > > > > > > personality quirks and have found it to be a complete waste of time to > > > > > > engage with him seriously. He's too funny to ignore completely, but > > > > > > not so funny that he deserves more attention, especially since that's > > > > > > what he craves. > > > > > > Too true. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Bill > > > > > The poster is not engaging with me, the poster is agreeing with me. > > > > The poster agrees a moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether > > > > displacement wave. > > > > If that's what I was agreeing with then I must be stupid. > > > That's what you were agreeing with. > > > While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the > > exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single > > slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and > > removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an > > interference pattern. > > > Explain how this is possible. > > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether > > displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a > > single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave > > in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement > > wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the > > direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the > > slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the > > wave into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Mass and energy Mass and gravity Gravity and inertia space and time > universes and universes are all part of natures balancing acts. They > all can be considered equal. Einstein 100 years ago(1905) gave us > E=MC^2 In 1946 I gave my equasion G=EMC^2 It fits TreBert Aether and matter are different states of the same material. I named this material mæther. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Mass does not convert to energy. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of displacement. Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on 4 May 2010 14:53 Aether and matter are different states of the same material. I named this material mæther. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of displacement. Mass does not convert to energy. Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on 4 May 2010 16:31 Aether and matter are different states of the same material. I named this material mæther. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass. In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of displacement. Mass does not convert to energy. Mass is conserved.
From: BURT on 4 May 2010 16:41
On May 4, 11:53 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > I named this material mæther. > Aether is displaced by matter. > Displacement creates pressure. > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity > by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the > aether's state of displacement. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? > By A. EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. > > In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass. > > In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of > displacement. > > Mass does not convert to energy. Mass is conserved. Mass is infinitely dense energy. It is an infinitely small geometric point form of C squared energy. Mass flows through space. The faster it flows the more massive it is. This is the Gamma math for flow speed in the universe. Mitch Raemsch |