Mass-Energy Equivalence [Physics]

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From: mpc755 on 28 Apr 2010 22:28

On Apr 28, 10:22 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 5:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 28, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
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> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > > > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether.
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> > > > > By what energy?
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> > > > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
> > > > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
> > > > wave.
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> > > Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese?
> > > What frequency is the aether?
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> > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > 'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the
> > aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of
> > matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion
> > on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of
> > Cambridge'http://www.archive.org/stream/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft/aethermatter...
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> > "The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a
> > theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a
> > continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the
> > case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of
> > conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in
> > a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free
> > aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required
> > was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete
> > into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux
> > which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become
> > essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of
> > the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere
> > equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its
> > electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation.
> > Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of
> > dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as
> > the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material
> > polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two
> > media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both
> > occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the
> > interconnexions by which they influence each other."
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> > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
> > by
> > Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
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> > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
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> > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Energy in mass comes from the square of the universal speed limit.
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> Mitch Raemsch

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
EINSTEIN'
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
and matter is energy.

In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass.

In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of
displacement.

In terms of E-mc^2, mass is conserved.

From: Bill Hobba on 1 May 2010 18:43

On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:
> The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> aether's state of displacement.

And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
is its state of actuality - ie non existent.

Thanks
Bill

From: spudnik on 1 May 2010 21:46

he seems to be unaware of the neccesity in a"proof,"
of "neccesity AND sufficiency," as first stated
by Leibniz (although having one or the other is,
still, very good -- if actually so .-)

> And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it

thus:
so, you applied Coriolis' Force to General Relativity, and
**** happened?

> read more »

thus:
with only the "trivial" solutions on the curves o'Fermatttt,
it sounds like a "necessary but insufficient" proof;
PdF certainly could have done it.

> I have been interested in the odd and even aspect of FLT , and
> when Cn = 1. May I have your reference? DRMARJOHN

thus:
so, your coinage of pi(a,b) is the same as pi(b) - pi(a); now,
can you say thr proof as a wordprolemmum?

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.takeTHEgoogolOUT.com

From: mpc755 on 2 May 2010 02:30

On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > aether's state of displacement.
>
> And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
> is its state of actuality - ie non existent.
>
> Thanks
> Bill

Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed.
Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect.

A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
the aether.

Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what
is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every
nucleus which is the matter which is the object.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
by the double solution theory
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
of an external field acting on the particle."

"This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
located."

de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
the wave.

In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.

A C-60 molecule displaces the aether.

A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
there is no interference.

The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity.

Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate
displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past
the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the
plates forces the plates together.

While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the
exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single
slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and
removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an
interference pattern.

Explain how this is possible.

In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether
displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a
single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave
in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement
wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the
slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the
wave into chop) and there is no interference.

Should I post the '<crickets>' response to you non-response now, or
should I wait 24 hours.

From: mpc755 on 2 May 2010 02:39

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