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From: mpc755 on 27 Apr 2010 17:47
On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 12:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 27, 3:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 27, 11:53 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 27, 2:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Apr 27, 4:59 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Apr 27, 1:17 am, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > what you should ... what "one" should say, because
> > > > > > > one cannot assume that one is wholly correct, is,
> > > > > > > "aether dysplacement might be a Unified Theory,
> > > > > > > and here is a more-refined argument."
>
> > > > > > That is why I say Aether Displacement is 'a' unified theory.
>
> > > > > > That is why I also add in 'to date'.
>
> > > > > > Stating the following:
>
> > > > > > Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
>
> > > > > > and:
>
> > > > > > Aether Displacement is the most correct unified theory to date.
>
> > > > > > Leaves the door open for the next more correct unified theory.
>
> > > > > > If I knew I was wholly correct, I would say:
>
> > > > > > Aether Displacement is the unified theory.
>
> > > > > If you were let have that what would you have?
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > You would have the understanding of the physics of nature.
>
> > > Yes. But what do you have?
>
> > I have Aether Displacement (AD).
>
> >http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf
>
> > "A possible candidate for dark energy that avoids some of the fine-
> > tuning problems associated with the cosmological is quintessence, a
> > very low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the
> > known universe. In addition to its effect on the expansion of the
> > universe, quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible
> > interactions with matter and radiation."
>
> >http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quintessence
>
> > "quin·tes·sence
> >    /kwɪnˈtɛsəns/ Show Spelled[kwin-tes-uhns] Show IPA
> > –noun
> > 1. the pure and concentrated essence of a substance.
> > 2. the most perfect embodiment of something.
> > 3. (in ancient and medieval philosophy) the fifth essence or element,
> > ether, supposed to be the constituent matter of the heavenly bodies"
>
> > A low-energy field with a wavelength comparable to the size of the
> > known universe is aether as a one something.
>
> > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
>
> > Aether is the pure essence of matter.
>
> > "quintessence might also manifest itself through its possible
> > interactions with matter"
>
> > Aether interacts with matter by being displaced by matter.
>
> > The pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter manifests itself as
> > gravity.
>
> > The following image represents the aether's state of displacement as
> > determined by its connections with the matter. The image would be more
> > accurate if the grid connected to and through the Earth. This would
> > more accurately reflect Einstein's concept of the state of the aether
> > is determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the
> > aether in neighboring places:
>
> >http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2005/11/16/16nov_gpb_resou...
>
> > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
> > by
> > Albert Einstein'
>
> > "What is fundamentally new in the ether of the general theory of
> > relativity as opposed to the ether of Lorentz consists in this, that
> > the state of the former is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places,
> > which are amenable to law in the form of differential equations;
> > whereas the state of the Lorentzian ether in the absence of
> > electromagnetic fields is conditioned by nothing outside itself, and
> > is everywhere the same. The ether of the general theory of relativity
> > is transmuted conceptually into the ether of Lorentz if we substitute
> > constants for the functions of space which describe the former,
> > disregarding the causes which condition its state."http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.
>
> > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047
>
> > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity
> > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter
> > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam
> > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that
> > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the
> > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence
> > space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter. However this is not a ‘flow’
> > of some form of ‘matter’ through space, as previously considered in
> > the aether models or in the ‘random’ particulate Le Sage kinetic
> > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the
> > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a
> > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the ‘flow’ in
> > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not
> > relative to some a priori background geometrical space"
>
> > What is described as "space effectively ‘flows’ towards matter" is the
> > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter.
>
> > "Then the ‘flow’ in one region is relative only to the patterns in
> > nearby regions"
>
> >http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/
>
> > Quote from Albert A Michelson's lecture circa 1899.
>
> > "Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an
> > aether displacement to the electric current, aether vortices to the
> > atoms; if we continue these suppositions, we arrive at what may be one
> > of the grandest generalizations of modern science, namely that all the
> > phenomena of the physical universe are only different manifestations
> > of the various modes of motion of one all-pervading (substance), the
> > aether. The day seems not to distant when the converging lines from
> > many apparently remote regions of thought will meet on some common
> > ground. Then the nature of the atom and the forces called into play in
> > their chemical union, the interactions between these atoms and the
> > non-differentiated aether as manifested in the phenomena of light and
> > electricity , the structure of the molecule, the explanation of
> > cohesion, elasticity and gravitation, all of these will be marshaled
> > into a single compact and consistent body of scientific knowledge."
>
> > I would modify the statement to read:
>
> > "all the phenomena of the physical universe are only different
> > manifestations of the various states of one all-pervading (substance),
> > the aether."
>
> >http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html
>
> > Albert Einstein:
>
> > "the state of the former is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"
>
> > I would modify the statement to read:
>
> > The state of the aether as determined by the connections with the
> > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
> > Aether is displaced by matter.
> > Displacement creates pressure.
> > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.
>
> > 'Frictionless supersolid a step closer'http://www.physorg.com/news185201084.html
>
> > "Superfluidity and superconductivity cause particles to move without
> > friction. Koos Gubbels investigated under what conditions such
> > particles keep moving endlessly without losing energy, like a swimmer
> > who takes one mighty stroke and then keeps gliding forever along the
> > swimming pool."
>
> > In the analogy the swimmer is any body and the water is the aether.
> > Just as the swimmer displaces the water, whether the swimmer is at
> > rest with respect to the water, or not, a body displaces the aether,
> > whether the body is at rest with respect to the aether, or not.
>
> > In the analogy the moving swimmer creates a displacement wave in the
> > water. A moving body creates a displacement wave in the aether.
>
> > 'On the super-fluid property of the relativistic physical vacuum
> > medium and the inertial motion of particles'http://arxiv.org/ftp/gr-qc/papers/0701/0701155.pdf
>
> > "Abstract: The similarity between the energy spectra of relativistic
> > particles and that of quasi-particles in super-conductivity BCS theory
> > makes us conjecture that the relativistic physical vacuum medium as
> > the ground state of the background field is a super fluid medium, and
> > the rest mass of a relativistic particle is like the energy gap of a
> > quasi-particle. This conjecture is strongly supported by the results
> > of our following investigation: a particle moving through the vacuum
> > medium at a speed less than the speed of light in vacuum, though
> > interacting with the vacuum medium, never feels friction force and
> > thus undergoes a frictionless and inertial motion."
>
> > A particle in the super fluid medium displaces the super fluid medium,
> > whether the particle is at rest with respect to the super fluid
> > medium, or not. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in the
> > super fluid medium.
>
> > A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
> > at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
> > individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
> > the aether.
>
> > Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
> > as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what
> > is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every
> > nucleus which is the matter which is the object.
>
> > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > by the double solution theory
> > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> > located."
>
> > de Broglie's definition of ...
>
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> How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Light propagates with respect to the aether.
From: mpc755 on 27 Apr 2010 17:50
On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Light propagates with respect to the aether.

From: BURT on 27 Apr 2010 17:55
On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> Light propagates with respect to the aether.

By what energy?

From: mpc755 on 27 Apr 2010 17:58
On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > Light propagates with respect to the aether.
>
> By what energy?

Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
wave.
From: spudnik on 27 Apr 2010 19:37
you still have not given us any "electromagnetic property"
of aether; it's just some sort of "emmission theoretical dis-
placement," with no math attached, and no theory.

are you still thinking of light as "photons
with a guidewave" -- like that little cartoon, you found?

maybe you just have a difficulty with English,
that is not as pronounced as herr doktor-
professor Nein EinStein's. for that
there is only one (known) cure.

> Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
> displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
> wave.

thus:
OMG, some dood hates Lyn!... well,
find the article about actual sea-level data
from tidal stations, yourself, mister Nice-guy.
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/fall01/Tanawa/tanawa.html
What Is a Torquetum?
The torquetum, an analogue computer, can tell us, without long and
tedious calculation, at any time of the night when planets or the Moon
are visible, what their angular distance is from the Sun, or from the
first point of Aries, and/or from some bright star in their vicinity.
It can also tell us how much they are above or below the ecliptic.

This would give us a fairly quick way to construct an almanac, with
enough data to predict at least lunar eclipses, as well as
occultations of bright stars or planets by the Moon—the which dramatic
events ought to confirm the longitude readings obtained by using the
torquetum to measure lunar distance.
—Rick Sanders

> 148940000 km^2 Earth land area
> 510072000 km^2 Earth sea area
> 14000000 km^2 Antarctica area
> 1.6 km Ice height

thus:
I dug into your wikilink, Sue;
the upshot is that there is only practiceably "patial vacuum,"
with all kinds of waffling about "free space;"
particularly laudable is:
Scientists working in optical communications tend to use free space to
refer to a medium with an unobstructed line of sight (often air,
sometimes space). See Free-space optical communication and the What is
Free Space Optical Communications?.

The United States Patent Office defines free space in a number of
ways. For radio and radar applications the definition is "space where
the movement of energy in any direction is substantially unimpeded,
such as the atmosphere, the ocean, or the earth" (Glossary in US
Patent Class 342, Class Notes).[40]

Another US Patent Office interpretation is Subclass 310: Communication
over free space, where the definition is "a medium which is not a wire
or a waveguide".[41]

thus:
now, not only can we easily aver that "that Shakespeare
wrote that Shakespeare," but we can also wonder
about his death at fifty-three, after dining
with a manslaughterer, Ben Johnson. anyway, if
you really want to get into WS's politics,
find the cover-article *Campaigner* magazine,
"Why the British hate Shakespeare" -- if you can do so,
at http://www.wlym.com/drupal/campaigners.

thus:
the whole *problem* is the diagramming,
which is just a 2D phase-space, and cartooned
into a "2+1" phase-space with "pants," sketched
on paper. you simply do not need the pants,
the lightcones they're made with, and
the paradoxes of "looping in time" because
of a silly diagram, wherein "time becomes comensurate
with space" saith-Minkowski-then-he-died.

as for capNtrade, if Waxman's bill passes,
you won't be able to do *any* physics,
that isn't "junkyard physics."

thus:
you are assuming that "gravitons" "go faster"
than "photons," which is three things that have
never been seen. Young proved that all properties
of light is wave-ish, save for the yet-to-fbe-ound photo-
electrical effect, the instrumental artifact that save Newton's balls
o'light for British academe. well, even if
any large thing could be accelerated to so close
to teh speed of light-propagation (which used to be known
as "retarded," since being found not instantaneous) is "space"
-- which is no-where "a" vacuum --
it'd create a shockwave of any light that it was emmitting,
per Gauss's hydrodynamic shockwaves (and, after all,
this is all in the field of "magnetohydrodynamics,"
not "vacuum energy dynamics").

thus:
what ever it says, Shapiro's last book is just a polemic;
his real "proof" is _1599_;
the fans of de Vere are hopelessly stuck-up --
especially if they went to Harry Potter PS#1.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://entertainment.timesonline.co.....

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com
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