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From: Gary S. Terhune on 16 Dec 2006 14:36 In any case, if you're going to add RAM, your best bet is to replace ALL of it. That way you're assured of matched sticks (or, rather, *almost* assured.) Myself, I always use the RAM configurator Crucial.com. (Sells Micron RAM, rebranded. In fact, I *think* Crucial is a Micron subsidiary.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Roll Your Own Free Security Suite" http://wiki.castlecops.com/Roll_your_own_Free_Security_Suite Daave wrote: > Thanks for the link to this utility; I like it! > > But I still can't determine CAS Latency of my RAM. What am I missing? > > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> This will tell you that info and a whole lot more (look at Bnchmark >> section): >> Everest Home Edition 2.20 >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html >> >> Note that Lavalys, makers of Everest, have ceased to distribute this >> version for free. You can only get it at shareware sites (perfectly >> legal and legit.) >> >> >> Daave wrote: > >>> The memory I located does indeed have a CAS Latency of 2: >>> >>> http://www.comtread.com/12pcsdram1611.html >>> >>> But how in the world do I determine what CL I have now? Is there any >>> software that can tell me? I even took out the RAM and jotted down >>> everything that was printed on it: >>> >>> SY56864V A1 >>> 296727 >>> A102 PC100 >>> S-DR PC128 SIT >>> >>> There are 16 Infineon chips on the stick: >>> HYB39564800BT-8 >>> Taiwan B E13012 >>> 9952 >>> >>> 1 84 >>> 94 V-O >>> >>> Googling, the closest I came up with was: >>> >>> http://www.computertradingpost.com/archives/CTP_Archive_282.htm >>> >>> MICRON TECHNOLOGIES SY56864V-A1 128MB PC133 CL3 168P MICRON MEM >>> SUPER PC TCG, Inc. >>> >>> CL=3, but note that it is PC133. >>> >>> What do *I* have?!
From: Daave on 16 Dec 2006 14:48 Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Sorry, I thought that would be shown by Everest. > > Anyway, a Google search for "SY56864V-A1" turned up this page: > http://www.computertradingpost.com/archives/CTP_Archive_282.htm > > which sahows this entry: > MICRON TECHNOLOGIES SY56864V-A1 128MB PC133 CL3 > 168P MICRON MEM SUPER PC TCG, Inc. > > Looks pretty legit. Will that do the job for you? Yes, I posted this elsewhere in this thread. Mine is PC100 (not PC133). I still don't know if mine is CL2 or CL3! Maybe that site had a typo? Weird that Google didn't have more results. Perhaps I can try the Wayback Machine at archive.org .
From: Gary S. Terhune on 16 Dec 2006 15:01 Sorry I couldn't be of more help. But, as I said in another post, my habit is usually to replace ALL sticks when I do an upgrade. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Roll Your Own Free Security Suite" http://wiki.castlecops.com/Roll_your_own_Free_Security_Suite Daave wrote: > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> Sorry, I thought that would be shown by Everest. >> >> Anyway, a Google search for "SY56864V-A1" turned up this page: >> http://www.computertradingpost.com/archives/CTP_Archive_282.htm >> >> which sahows this entry: >> MICRON TECHNOLOGIES SY56864V-A1 128MB PC133 CL3 >> 168P MICRON MEM SUPER PC TCG, Inc. >> >> Looks pretty legit. Will that do the job for you? > > Yes, I posted this elsewhere in this thread. Mine is PC100 (not > PC133). I still don't know if mine is CL2 or CL3! Maybe that site had > a typo? > > Weird that Google didn't have more results. Perhaps I can try the > Wayback Machine at archive.org .
From: Daave on 16 Dec 2006 15:08 MEB wrote: > "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM(a)myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message > news:AN-dnf5KwcAhuBnYnZ2dnUVZ_qCmnZ2d(a)cavtel.net... >> MEB wrote: >>> Daave wrote: >>>> MEB wrote: >> >>>>> First, what did you do, just the memory upgrade, or the processor >>>>> and memory? 256megs memory or what? >>>> >>>> Actually, I haven't even purchased the RAM yet! But I do plan on >>>> ordering two 128 MB sticks later on today from Comtread to bring my >>>> system up to 384 MB. >>> >>> If you plan on the processor upgrade, that would be the FIRST that >>> should be done. Check that your present memory can handle the faster >>> FSB first though. >>> At least do as I indicated with the memory up top. >> >> I understand the need for a faster processor (and bus speed). >> However, I am curious to what a memory upgrade can do on its own. >> Since I currently have PC100 RAM and I plan on getting more PC100 >> RAM, which will also be compatible with the processor/bus speed >> upgrade, isn't this still doable? >> >> >> >> >>>> BTW, I checked available resources by clicking on the Performance >>>> tab of >>>> System Properties. Is there a better way? >>> >>> Of course, but what are you trying to accomplish, monitoring or >>> usage. Monitoring the system take resourses and processor time. >> >> Usage, I suppose. I was responding to your question: >> >>>>> What was the "available resources" showing. >> >> The context was that you stated that 50 MB of swapfile in use was >> reasonable. And then you asked about available resources. The only >> way I know of checking that is System Properties > Performance tab. >> >>>> Also, I was using Process Explorer. I like how it shows percentage >>>> of CPU usage for each process. Is there a similar utility that >>>> shows actual RAM usage? >>> >>> Check View in PE then System information. >> >> Hmmm, perhaps I need a more recent version (I'm running v10.06). >> When I check this, I don't see RAM usage for each process. I see CPU >> Usage and Commit. I do see Physical Memory (K): Total and Available. >> But that's for the entire system. I would like to see something that >> breaks it down for each individual program. >> >>> Temporarily, try increasing your pre-cache/pre-fetch if possible >>> [delay play], but don't expect much. >> >> How do I do this, and what values do you suggest I use? >> >> -- >> Dave >> >> > > Ah, I think I now see what your doing, the same testing that was done > several years ago by the over-clockers / system tweakers. > > Since that is apparently so, use Google, search SimTel, Major Geeks, > and other software sites for old versions of testing tools and > results. Your attempting to use me for material you should be > locating yourself so you understand what and why your doing what your > doing. I definitely appreciate your "teach a man how to fish and he will be able to feed himself for a lifetime." However, I'm really not that interested in what you said above (i.e., the type of testing done by over-clockers and system tweakers). I was just wondering: Is it really necessary to upgrade memory only *after* upgrading the processor? I wanted to provide an accurate answer to your earlier question of >>>>> What was the "available resources" showing. And I just wondered was there a better way of determining this rather than the usual System Properties > Performance Tab method. Unless I misunderstood you, you answered my question of "Is there a utility [similar to Process Explorer] that shows actual RAM usage [for each process that is running]?" with the instruction to use Process Explorer and "Check View in PE then System information." However, this didn't do the trick. (Maybe I need to run the latest version.) I'm all in favor of Googling the Web and even Googling old Usenet posts; I have definitely learned a lot with those resources. But my intention is not to have you do my work for me! I apologize if I am coming off this way. -- Dave
From: Daave on 16 Dec 2006 15:45
Daave wrote: > And I just wondered was there a better way of determining this rather > than the usual System Properties > Performance Tab method. > > Unless I misunderstood you, you answered my question of "Is there a > utility [similar to Process Explorer] that shows actual RAM usage [for > each process that is running]?" with the instruction to use Process > Explorer and "Check View in PE then System information." However, this > didn't do the trick. (Maybe I need to run the latest version.) Ah, it looks like CoolMon might do the trick... |