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From: Conor on 14 Jan 2010 17:16 In article <pan.2010.01.14.19.06.03.628253(a)stovell.nospam.org.uk>, Phil Stovell says... > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:58:05 +0000, Conor wrote: > > > Its shitloads. In Calc, there's shitloads of Exel functions missing and > > there's sod all macro support. > > Are all Calc functions in Excel? Nobody cares because Excel is the only thing that counts. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Snit on 14 Jan 2010 17:16 Rick stated in post aMGdnROUzbJNDtLWnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)supernews.com on 1/14/10 2:59 PM: > On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:47:44 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> Rick stated in post 47GdnWkNKaSnmdLWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)supernews.com on >> 1/14/10 4:47 AM: >> >> ... >>>>> Why not? >>>> >>>> I would not go so far as to say it is not suitable, but I do not think >>>> it intrinsically is the best product for most needs: it does not offer >>>> as many features and has features not done was well (including ones >>>> which are relatively common). Still, because of *external* factors I >>>> can see (and have) recommended it to quite a few people - mostly based >>>> on price but also for some who place value on the OSS principles. >>>> You repeatedly post your link to a list of groups who use OpenOffice >>>> as if that somehow shows something about the software... as if people >>>> using it shows it has better intrinsic value. Your game is absurd >>>> though... if mere counts of companies substituted for a sign of value, >>>> then MS Office and MS Windows are *clearly* the best products in their >>>> class by *far*. >>> >>> It apparently meets the needs of those using it well enough to keep >>> using it instead of using other sofftware. >> >> And, of course, you say the same thing about Windows and MS Office - it >> meets the needs of those who use it well enough that they keep using it >> instead of other software. > > ... except that, for the most part, those people/corporations have > switched TO OO.o FROM MSO or some other software. And many companies switched from WordPerfect to MS Office... at least those who have been around a while. And, I am sure, they have changed other things that do not serve them well... don't you agree? >>>>> I am sure there are some corporations listed here: >>>>> <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ >>>>> Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments#Private_Sector> >>>> >>>> Such as? >>> >>> I do not believe any answer to that question will satisfy you. >> >> It is public info what companies are corporations and which are not! > > So what? I do not believe any answer to that question will satisfy you. You have odd beliefs... or, really, you claim to in order to avoid supporting your claims. The fact is you may be right... but you might not be. But you are never going to even try to support your claim. This is just who you are. >>> I think you will just throw some dissenting view of why it is being >>> used at "X" corporation. So, if you truly want to know, go >>> through the list. >> >> See how bad you are at supporting your claims - even ones where the >> evidence you could bring up would be very solid if you would actually >> try! > > Yada Yada yada. You want to know which corporations? Go through the list. > And, AGAIN, if I were to name a corporation (or more) I think you will > just throw some dissenting view of why it is being used at "X" > corporation. You work real hard to avoid supporting your own claims. -- [INSERT .SIG HERE]
From: Phil Stovell on 14 Jan 2010 17:23 Oh, my advise now would likely be to issue OO to everyone, and let those who can provide a business case buy MSO from their budget.
From: Phil Stovell on 14 Jan 2010 17:25 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:15:40 +0000, Conor wrote: > Says the man who claims to have worked for the only £40m T/O company that > has never ever used macros in Exel. It's Excel, not Exel. Are you sure you you're not confusing formulae with macros? OO has both.
From: Rick on 14 Jan 2010 17:28
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:16:43 -0700, Snit wrote: > Rick stated in post aMGdnROUzbJNDtLWnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)supernews.com on > 1/14/10 2:59 PM: > >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:47:44 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> Rick stated in post 47GdnWkNKaSnmdLWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)supernews.com on >>> 1/14/10 4:47 AM: >>> >>> ... >>>>>> Why not? >>>>> >>>>> I would not go so far as to say it is not suitable, but I do not >>>>> think it intrinsically is the best product for most needs: it does >>>>> not offer as many features and has features not done was well >>>>> (including ones which are relatively common). Still, because of >>>>> *external* factors I can see (and have) recommended it to quite a >>>>> few people - mostly based on price but also for some who place value >>>>> on the OSS principles. You repeatedly post your link to a list of >>>>> groups who use OpenOffice as if that somehow shows something about >>>>> the software... as if people using it shows it has better intrinsic >>>>> value. Your game is absurd though... if mere counts of companies >>>>> substituted for a sign of value, then MS Office and MS Windows are >>>>> *clearly* the best products in their class by *far*. >>>> >>>> It apparently meets the needs of those using it well enough to keep >>>> using it instead of using other sofftware. >>> >>> And, of course, you say the same thing about Windows and MS Office - >>> it meets the needs of those who use it well enough that they keep >>> using it instead of other software. >> >> ... except that, for the most part, those people/corporations have >> switched TO OO.o FROM MSO or some other software. > > And many companies switched from WordPerfect to MS Office... at least > those who have been around a while. And, I am sure, they have changed > other things that do not serve them well... don't you agree? Possibly. But, AGAIN, OO.o apparently meets the needs of most of those using it well enough to keep using it instead of using other sofftware. > >>>>>> I am sure there are some corporations listed here: >>>>>> <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ >>>>>> Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments#Private_Sector> >>>>> >>>>> Such as? >>>> >>>> I do not believe any answer to that question will satisfy you. >>> >>> It is public info what companies are corporations and which are not! >> >> So what? I do not believe any answer to that question will satisfy you. > > You have odd beliefs... or, really, you claim to in order to avoid > supporting your claims. The fact is you may be right... but you might > not be. But you are never going to even try to support your claim. > This is just who you are. Yada, Yada, Yada .. I gave you my reasoning. Don't like it? Tough. > >>>> I think you will just throw some dissenting view of why it is being >>>> used at "X" corporation. So, if you truly want to know, go through >>>> the list. >>> >>> See how bad you are at supporting your claims - even ones where the >>> evidence you could bring up would be very solid if you would actually >>> try! >> >> Yada Yada yada. You want to know which corporations? Go through the >> list. And, AGAIN, if I were to name a corporation (or more) I think you >> will just throw some dissenting view of why it is being used at "X" >> corporation. > > You work real hard to avoid supporting your own claims. .... this is going nowhere, as I expected. Since I know you need to so much.. have the last word (and have the courtesy not to snip this sentence as you usually do) -- Rick |