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From: Rick on 14 Jan 2010 17:41 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:33:25 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Rick wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:16:43 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> Rick stated in post aMGdnROUzbJNDtLWnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)supernews.com on >>> 1/14/10 2:59 PM: >>> >>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:47:44 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rick stated in post 47GdnWkNKaSnmdLWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)supernews.com >>>>> on 1/14/10 4:47 AM: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>>>>> Why not? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would not go so far as to say it is not suitable, but I do not >>>>>>> think it intrinsically is the best product for most needs: it does >>>>>>> not offer as many features and has features not done was well >>>>>>> (including ones which are relatively common). Still, because of >>>>>>> *external* factors I can see (and have) recommended it to quite a >>>>>>> few people - mostly based on price but also for some who place >>>>>>> value on the OSS principles. You repeatedly post your link to a >>>>>>> list of groups who use OpenOffice as if that somehow shows >>>>>>> something about the software... as if people using it shows it has >>>>>>> better intrinsic >>>>>>> value. Your game is absurd though... if mere counts of companies >>>>>>> substituted for a sign of value, then MS Office and MS Windows are >>>>>>> *clearly* the best products in their class by *far*. >>>>>> >>>>>> It apparently meets the needs of those using it well enough to keep >>>>>> using it instead of using other sofftware. >>>>> >>>>> And, of course, you say the same thing about Windows and MS Office - >>>>> it meets the needs of those who use it well enough that they keep >>>>> using it instead of other software. >>>> >>>> ... except that, for the most part, those people/corporations have >>>> switched TO OO.o FROM MSO or some other software. >>> >>> And many companies switched from WordPerfect to MS Office... at least >>> those who have been around a while. And, I am sure, they have changed >>> other things that do not serve them well... don't you agree? >> >> Possibly. But, AGAIN, OO.o apparently meets the needs of most of those >> using it well enough to keep using it instead of using other sofftware. > > Well, several german cities seemed to be quite content with OO. Seems OO > provided everything they needed. For example: The computers in Munich > which still run windows have OO installed .... and now watch the trolls start with their "yeah, but"... -- Rick
From: Baron on 14 Jan 2010 17:59 Gordon Inscribed thus: > The Old Sourdough wrote: >> >> >> In a trial of that nature, names are a matter of public record. > > Interesting. Not in the UK they aren't..... True ! Not only but its a criminal offense to publicly identify a juror ! Its probably the same in the USA. -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: Baron on 14 Jan 2010 18:12 Jordon Inscribed thus: > Gordon wrote: > >> Hmmm. I've worked for several large corporations in the UK and never >> saw anyone using VBA or Macros, never mind automation. Most people >> couldn't tell me what Pivot tables were either... > > Well, I work for a small corporation the US and > without VBA in Excel many of my spreadsheets would > be very user unfriendly. Average users can't be > bothered with learning simple basics like sorting a > list and I get constant calls from people asking me > how to do the most mundane tasks, but add a simple > script that sorts a 5,000 row list and the calls > (about sorting) stop. > > I have spreadsheets that employees use that have > upwards of 50 sheets that have to be protected or > else someone will delete something they shouldn't. > But when I have to do a global edit on all 50 sheets, > turning off protection on each one becomes a huge > chore. A simple script turns that into a 1 second > job. > > Average users probably don't use pivot tables all > that much but when the boss asks me who our top > customers are and where their business takes place, > I can give him an answer with a pivot table in about > two minutes. That is, two minutes after the data has > been pulled out of the database. > > No doubt about it, without VBA and pivot tables we'd > be spending a lot more money to have something custom > designed. Obviously you don't know how to use a database either ! Since you can do that with a simple query. No spreadsheet needed. -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: Snit on 14 Jan 2010 18:21 Peter K�hlmann stated in post hio63l$la0$02$1(a)news.t-online.com on 1/14/10 3:33 PM: > Rick wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:16:43 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> Rick stated in post aMGdnROUzbJNDtLWnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)supernews.com on >>> 1/14/10 2:59 PM: >>> >>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:47:44 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rick stated in post 47GdnWkNKaSnmdLWnZ2dnUVZ_uxi4p2d(a)supernews.com on >>>>> 1/14/10 4:47 AM: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>>>>> Why not? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would not go so far as to say it is not suitable, but I do not >>>>>>> think it intrinsically is the best product for most needs: it does >>>>>>> not offer as many features and has features not done was well >>>>>>> (including ones which are relatively common). Still, because of >>>>>>> *external* factors I can see (and have) recommended it to quite a >>>>>>> few people - mostly based on price but also for some who place >>>>>>> value on the OSS principles. You repeatedly post your link to a >>>>>>> list of groups who use OpenOffice as if that somehow shows >>>>>>> something about the software... as if people using it shows it has >>>>>>> better intrinsic >>>>>>> value. Your game is absurd though... if mere counts of companies >>>>>>> substituted for a sign of value, then MS Office and MS Windows are >>>>>>> *clearly* the best products in their class by *far*. >>>>>> >>>>>> It apparently meets the needs of those using it well enough to keep >>>>>> using it instead of using other sofftware. >>>>> >>>>> And, of course, you say the same thing about Windows and MS Office - >>>>> it meets the needs of those who use it well enough that they keep >>>>> using it instead of other software. >>>> >>>> ... except that, for the most part, those people/corporations have >>>> switched TO OO.o FROM MSO or some other software. >>> >>> And many companies switched from WordPerfect to MS Office... at least >>> those who have been around a while. And, I am sure, they have changed >>> other things that do not serve them well... don't you agree? >> >> Possibly. But, AGAIN, OO.o apparently meets the needs of most of those >> using it well enough to keep using it instead of using other sofftware. > > Well, several german cities seemed to be quite content with OO. Seems OO > provided everything they needed. For example: The computers in Munich > which still run windows have OO installed > For relatively basic needs it is adequate. -- [INSERT .SIG HERE]
From: Snit on 14 Jan 2010 18:23
Rick stated in post aMGdnQyUzbLuB9LWnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4p2d(a)supernews.com on 1/14/10 3:28 PM: .... >>>>> It apparently meets the needs of those using it well enough to keep >>>>> using it instead of using other sofftware. >>>> >>>> And, of course, you say the same thing about Windows and MS Office - >>>> it meets the needs of those who use it well enough that they keep >>>> using it instead of other software. >>> >>> ... except that, for the most part, those people/corporations have >>> switched TO OO.o FROM MSO or some other software. >> >> And many companies switched from WordPerfect to MS Office... at least >> those who have been around a while. And, I am sure, they have changed >> other things that do not serve them well... don't you agree? > > Possibly. But, AGAIN, OO.o apparently meets the needs of most of those > using it well enough to keep using it instead of using other sofftware. Have you ever noticed how often you repeat points, even those which no contrary view has been posted. It is an off habit of yours. Not very endearing, really. Sorta kills any forward movement of a conversation. In any case, it is clear you have no intention to even try to support your claims about corporations... a shame - I figured that was an easy enough claim to provide solid support for that you might actually try. I was hoping to help you get practice supporting your claims - clearly you need it. -- [INSERT .SIG HERE] |