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From: John Corliss on 4 May 2010 18:55
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "hotfoot"<hotfoot(a)nospam.invalid>
>
> | My guess is that Microsoft doesn't want their users comparing notes with
> | Linux fans.
>
> My guess it is more about control of content, moderation and the blocking of spam and
> trolls.

Maybe they're trying to get more people to start Passport accounts or
whatever they call them these days.

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From: David H. Lipman on 4 May 2010 19:08
From: "John Corliss" <q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com>

| David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "hotfoot"<hotfoot(a)nospam.invalid>

>> | My guess is that Microsoft doesn't want their users comparing notes with
>> | Linux fans.

>> My guess it is more about control of content, moderation and the blocking of spam and
>> trolls.

| Maybe they're trying to get more people to start Passport accounts or
| whatever they call them these days.

That's another possibility.

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From: KristleBawl on 4 May 2010 19:22
David H. Lipman expressed an opinion:
> From: "hotfoot"<hotfoot(a)nospam.invalid> | My guess is that Microsoft
> doesn't want their users comparing notes with | Linux fans.
>
> My guess it is more about control of content, moderation and the
> blocking of spam and trolls.

Yes, by requiring registration and using moderators.

It will also greatly reduce useless replies, such as "me, too" posts.

I think Microsoft will just shut down the NNTP server and allow the
individual newsgroups to remain, at least for a while, because several
individual MS MVPs still post in the groups but also offer links to the
new forums. Going through the trouble of removing the most frequently
propagated groups would be cutting off free advertising.

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From: s|b on 5 May 2010 14:24
On Tue, 04 May 2010 23:00:56 +0200, FredW wrote:

> Yes all microsoft.public.* newsgroups will disappear from the Microsoft
> news server.

But will they also disappear on other news servers?

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From: Mark Blain on 5 May 2010 15:07
Gordon Darling <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in news:4be070bc$0$281$14726298
@news.sunsite.dk:

> "Microsoft said it plans to end support for more than 4,000 old-style
> newsgroups starting next month, pushing users instead to discussion
> forums such as those found on the Microsoft Answers, TechNet and MSDN
> sites.
>
> Although venerable, Microsoft said that so-called NNTP newsgroups have
> past their time in terms of being usable and secure."

Like most operators of web forums,
1) They want more control over messages than Usenet provides.
2) They want you to sign up and provide them personal information.
3) They want to be able to put ads on the webpages.

4) I suspect that newer MS staff don't understand the benefits of
newsgroups, and simply want to use what's more familiar to them.

I scan dozens of newsgroups daily and participate often, which I can do
only because access is standardized and information's presented quickly
in a format that I choose. Because many websites host similar forum
topics and their interfaces are non-standard and slower, the user
community fragments and less people will ever read your questions (or
answers, or rants... :).

I do use web forums and understand their benefits, but I'll miss NNTP
when it's gone.

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