Prev: [UPDATE] Foxit Reader 3.3.0.0430
Next: The Chrome Revolution
From: wasbit on 6 May 2010 07:53
"Bob Phillips" <bob.phillips(a)somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:HNKdncGVkN8543_WnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> Sorry for being thick, but after reading your post I just tried accessing
> the public groups via my ISP newsserver, and it works fine. But how do I
> filter these Google Groupers that you refer to? I seem to be getting spam
> that I don't see from the MS newsserver (I am using OE).
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
>
<Big Snip>

It's some time since I used OE but if I've got it wrong it'll soon get
corrected :

Open OE & select
Tools/ Message Rules/News which opens the New News Rule window
Use the Blocked Senders tab
(or you could go directly to this tab from Tools/Message Rules)
Click Add
Type in - Google Groups
Select - News Messages
Click 'OK'

Regards wasbit

From: Dewey Edwards on 6 May 2010 17:50

On Thu, 6 May 2010 21:12:32 +0000 (UTC), WhItE RaBBiT
<WhiTE.RAbbIT(a)Go.Ask.Alice.org> wrote:

>VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in news:hrsl5r$rg7$1(a)news.albasani.net:
>
>> Them dumping the webnews interface will have no effect in Usenet where
>> the microsoft.public.* newsgroups will continue to survive. Even if
>> Microsoft turns off their NNTP servers, that's just one NNTP node in the
>> huge Usenet mesh network.
>
>Depends; they have large tentacles.
>
>Word suggests that they will influence major news admins to dump all M$
>groups and that the collapse may continue from there.
>
>Time will tell.

Source for that would be nice.
From: Anonymous on 6 May 2010 18:27
In news:HNKdncGVkN8543_WnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)pipex.net . . .
"Bob Phillips" <bob.phillips(a)somewhere.com> wrote:
>Sorry for being thick, but after reading your post I just tried accessing
>the public groups via my ISP newsserver, and it works fine. But how do I
>filter these Google Groupers that you refer to? I seem to be getting spam
>that I don't see from the MS newsserver (I am using OE).

Don't know about OE, but nfilter (freeware news proxy) users can add
this entry to their ".dat" filter file, using regular expressions:

* drop message-id:*googlegroups*
* drop references:*googlegroups*

Add pipelines "|" to add other entries on the same line, like this:

* drop message-id:*googlegroups*|*spamserver2*|*spamserver3*

The asterisks work as wildcards, so you can shorten the server names
as much as you dare. If you make them too short, you may filter out
legitimate servers without realizing it.

If you install nfilter, specify "localhost" as OE's news server. It works
with any news browser.

--
@

From: hotfoot on 6 May 2010 22:09
On Thu, 06 May 2010 17:50:37 -0400, Dewey Edwards wrote:

> On Thu, 6 May 2010 21:12:32 +0000 (UTC), WhItE RaBBiT
> <WhiTE.RAbbIT(a)Go.Ask.Alice.org> wrote:
>
>>VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in news:hrsl5r$rg7$1(a)news.albasani.net:
>>
>>> Them dumping the webnews interface will have no effect in Usenet where
>>> the microsoft.public.* newsgroups will continue to survive. Even if
>>> Microsoft turns off their NNTP servers, that's just one NNTP node in
>>> the huge Usenet mesh network.
>>
>>Depends; they have large tentacles.
>>
>>Word suggests that they will influence major news admins to dump all M$
>>groups and that the collapse may continue from there.
>>
>>Time will tell.
>
> Source for that would be nice.

Yeah, the only thing I've seen from Microsoft is a memo saying they were
dropping support. They haven't clarified exactly what they mean by that.
Deleting the newsgroups is only the most pessimistic interpretation. A
more likely one is that they plan to disconnect their webforums from
Usenet, move all their tech support people to them, and leave the
newsgroups to sink or swim on thier own. Many user-run tech-support
groups thrive on Usenet without any assistance from the respective
manufacturers, so I think the MS groups will do just fine without help
from MS.

From: hotfoot on 6 May 2010 22:12
On Thu, 06 May 2010 21:12:32 +0000, WhItE RaBBiT wrote:

> VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in news:hrsl5r$rg7$1(a)news.albasani.net:
>
>> Them dumping the webnews interface will have no effect in Usenet where
>> the microsoft.public.* newsgroups will continue to survive. Even if
>> Microsoft turns off their NNTP servers, that's just one NNTP node in
>> the huge Usenet mesh network.
>
> Depends; they have large tentacles.
>
> Word suggests that they will influence major news admins to dump all M$
> groups and that the collapse may continue from there.

Not going to happen. If MS deletes them then someone else can re-use the
names to re-create them as new groups but with charters that Microsoft
no longer controls. It's not like Microsoft to give up control of
anything, even if they no longer need it.

Besides that, the top dogs who run Usenet rarely allow the deletion of
newsgroups where people continue to post, while NNTP admins are crusty,
independent types who aren't required to honor deletion requests and
don't take well to being pushed around. Premium providers already have
an unofficial policy of never deleting newsgroups and Google is already
at war with MS over other things so cooperation from Google Groups is
unlikely.

It doesn't matter what MS wants, those groups are here to stay.

> Time will tell.

First  |  Prev  |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5
Prev: [UPDATE] Foxit Reader 3.3.0.0430
Next: The Chrome Revolution