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From: Benedolfus on 1 Aug 2010 18:31 Op 01-08-10 23:19, Bear Bottoms schreef: > Benedolfus<benedolfus(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in > news:i34nns$3k9$1(a)solani.org: > >> Op 01-08-10 22:10, Bear Bottoms schreef: >> >>> Like I said. You are in denial, and unless the license specifically >>> states it can be run under Wine as you said some software you have >>> states, then it cannot be legally and especially morally done so. You >>> might do it anyway, thus stealing. If Linux is so great, why do you >>> need to steal other software? >>> >> According to you if the person/group that owns the rights on some >> software doesn't mention it can not be run under Wine, we still have >> to assume that that's the case and they just forgot to mention it? >> >> Seems to me a case of proven guilty until innocence proved, referring >> to the use of wine as stealing is thus stupid. >> > Why does Linux need Wine? Can it not develop it's own programs? It has > to use software developed for other OS's! Stick to the issue you primarely started, the use of wine is according to you stealing, so instead of evading the fact you have to admit you're wrong there, you try now to play why does linux nead wine, so let met turn the question a bit, why do other 0S's use things like vmware?
From: Benedolfus on 1 Aug 2010 18:32 Op 01-08-10 23:20, Bear Bottoms schreef: > Benedolfus<benedolfus(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in > news:i34nu9$45d$1(a)solani.org: > >> Op 01-08-10 22:12, Bear Bottoms schreef: >> >>> I never said that it does anything to the code of the software. The >>> software is not designed to be run on Linux or the developer would >>> say it is designed for Linux. That is stealing. Wine is also stealing >>> the Windows API. :) >>> >> >> If the developer (unless he's so unaware of emulation software) didn't >> want it to be run under wine he should include that in his licence. >> Now if a follow your discours, why Microsoft didn't take any action >> against wine? >> > It may. > yeah, and i might prove also what code linux did 'steal' from them, gues that will be the day that some people come to the conclusion that the biggest thieves can be found within the MS organisation.
From: B℮ar Bottoms on 1 Aug 2010 18:52 On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:19:17 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: > Why does Linux need Wine? Can it not develop it's own programs? It has > to use software developed for other OS's! Why does freeBSD need its ports collection? Can it not develop it's own programs? It has to use software developed for other OS's! -- B℮ar Bottoms Proud p0wner of Googleware
From: za kAT on 1 Aug 2010 18:59 On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:19:17 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote: > Why does Linux need Wine? Can it not develop it's own programs? It has > to use software developed for other OS's! Why do I need to run a Spectrum Emulator? You must have completed all the levels of Jet Set Willy by now, I hear you say? They /never/ fixed 'The Attic Bug'. GRRR!!!!!!!!! -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
From: Mark Warner on 1 Aug 2010 19:16
Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mark Warner wrote: >> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>> Wine takes software that was not designed to be run in Linux and >>>>>>> semi- ports it to be able to run in Linux. >>>>>> Wine does absolutely nothing to application software. What it does >>>>>> do is supply the basic Windows API layers necessary for Windows >>>>>> programs to run on Linux. Again, the applications themselves are >>>>>> untouched -- they run in wine exactly as they do in Windows. >>>>> I never said that it does anything to the code of the software. >>>> You said it "semi-ports" it. (see above) You do know that "porting" >>>> software mean modifying it, don't you? >>> Yes and that is why I said semi. >> So it "semi-modifies" it? Is that your position? > > No. It is similar to it. So which is it? Does or does not wine modify a program to allow it to run on Linux? -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ....lose .inhibitions when replying |