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From: Mark Warner on 1 Aug 2010 19:23 Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mark Warner wrote: >> >> The sad part is that it wouldn't be difficult to "win" in one sense -- >> all he would have to do is admit to his mistake ("I shot my mouth off, >> and obviously was mistaken about how I understood wine to work"). It's >> not that hard; I've had to do it on occasion. But we all know that'll >> never happen with BB. > > Why should I admit to a mistake when in my opinion, Wine is a software > stealing program. You claimed that wine "semi-ports" (i.e. modifies) software to allow it to run on Linux. That's your statement, a patently false one. That is your mistake. Your characterization of wine as a "software stealing" program would be your opinion. One you are entitled to. Although it shows you to be stark raving mad. -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Mark Warner on 1 Aug 2010 20:31 Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mark Warner wrote: >> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>>>>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>>>> Wine takes software that was not designed to be run in Linux >>>>>>>>> and semi- ports it to be able to run in Linux. >>>>>>>> Wine does absolutely nothing to application software. What it >>>>>>>> does do is supply the basic Windows API layers necessary for >>>>>>>> Windows programs to run on Linux. Again, the applications >>>>>>>> themselves are untouched -- they run in wine exactly as they do >>>>>>>> in Windows. >>>>>>> I never said that it does anything to the code of the software. >>>>>> You said it "semi-ports" it. (see above) You do know that >>>>>> "porting" software mean modifying it, don't you? >>>>> Yes and that is why I said semi. >>>> So it "semi-modifies" it? Is that your position? >>> No. It is similar to it. >> So which is it? Does or does not wine modify a program to allow it to >> run on Linux? > > It runs software not developed for Linux. That's not what I asked. -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Mark Warner on 1 Aug 2010 20:38 Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mark Warner wrote: >> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>>>>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>>>> Mark Warner wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Wine takes software that was not designed to be run in Linux >>>>>>>>>>> and semi- ports it to be able to run in Linux. >>>>>>>>>> Wine does absolutely nothing to application software. What it >>>>>>>>>> does do is supply the basic Windows API layers necessary for >>>>>>>>>> Windows programs to run on Linux. Again, the applications >>>>>>>>>> themselves are untouched -- they run in wine exactly as they do >>>>>>>>>> in Windows. >>>>>>>>> I never said that it does anything to the code of the software. >>>>>>>> You said it "semi-ports" it. (see above) You do know that >>>>>>>> "porting" software mean modifying it, don't you? >>>>>>> Yes and that is why I said semi. >>>>>> So it "semi-modifies" it? Is that your position? >>>>> No. It is similar to it. >>>> So which is it? Does or does not wine modify a program to allow it to >>>> run on Linux? >>> It runs software not developed for Linux. >> That's not what I asked. > > You don't get to lead...it's my assertion. Which one? You taken both positions right here in this thread. -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Benedolfus on 1 Aug 2010 23:18 Op 02-08-10 01:03, Bear Bottoms schreef: > Benedolfus<benedolfus(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in news:i34sj5$f6f$1 > @solani.org: >> Stick to the issue you primarely started, the use of wine is according >> to you stealing, so instead of evading the fact you have to admit you're >> wrong there, you try now to play why does linux nead wine, so let met >> turn the question a bit, why do other 0S's use things like vmware? >> >> > > Why would I have to admit that I'm wrong? According to me, Wine steals > other operating systems software in order to be able to use it on Linux. I > don't use VMWare. The question is fair, and you can't answer it because you > are afraid of the admission...why does Linux need Wine? > You didn't gave proof of your statement about stealing, further, it's not Linux that NEEDS wine, one can use Linux perfectly without installing wine. I saw you started another thread, just to evade that people keep focussing on this one and keep asking you for your proof about stealing? You might not be using VMware but that doesn't mean a thing, you're not a reference. .. So i'll be waiting for your proof about that stealing, but to be on the safe side, i don't gonne hold my breath. so explain the difference between wine and vmware
From: Benedolfus on 1 Aug 2010 23:19
Op 02-08-10 01:05, Bear Bottoms schreef: > I don't use Windows Services for UNIX. If MS doesn't have an agreement > with the developers, they shouldn't either. Do you know if MS has such > an agreement? > Once more, you're not a reference, so if you use it or not is no issue, fact is that Windows needs Windows services for UNIX. |