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From: Adrian C on 11 Dec 2009 13:01 AJL wrote: > > Or this one: > http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4209 Nah, that's a netbook built around the PC architecture. The previous models discussed are not PC's, have limited expansion and a firmware based operating system of Windows CE. If windows CE could be dropped off these, and eldy installed then these could perhaps get some serious use. http://www.eldy.eu -- Adrian C
From: Richard Bonner on 11 Dec 2009 15:14 BillW50 (BillW50(a)aol.kom) wrote: > Who makes this very limited netbook and who would ever buy one? > http://www.heartlandamerica.com/browse/catalog_viewer.asp?GUID=88A436D6-97D6-432E-9EC9-224426087E2F&CS=4 > 260MHz processor > 128MB of RAM > Windows CE 5.0 > 2GB SSD > 7 hour run time on battery > 7 inch LCD 800x600 display > $179.99 > -- > Bill *** If one doesn't think "bloatware", it's plenty useful. (-: -- Richard Bonner http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
From: AJL on 11 Dec 2009 16:10 Adrian C <email(a)here.invalid> wrote: >AJL wrote: >> >> Or this one: >> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4209 > >Nah, that's a netbook built around the PC architecture. My Eee PC 2G Surf netbook though a PC is not really powerful enough to run any reasonable version of Windows. It has a stunted version of Xandros (Linux) that while it comes with lots of usable software is difficult to impossible to upgrade. However it works great for what it was designed for and it is still my choice when traveling. However when a >US$200, 7 hour battery, tiny, cool running, instant loading netbook comes along that fits my traveling needs I'll probably give it a try. Heck except for the teeny screen my Palm TX does all that and I paid north of $300 for it... >The previous models discussed are not PC's, have limited expansion My Eee PC 2G Surf netbook although a PC has most everything soldered in...virtually no expansion possible. But I doubt the average Joe cares in this type of device. I didn't. >If windows CE could be dropped off these, and eldy installed then these >could perhaps get some serious use. >http://www.eldy.eu From what I can tell in my local (Phoenix) big box stores the public here has spoken. I no longer see any 7 or 9" netbooks, 10" seems to be the smallest. And I haven't seen a Linux powered netbook in months. So whether an underpowered tiny screened netbook without Windows would sell or not is yet to be seen...
From: BillW50 on 11 Dec 2009 17:20 AJL wrote on Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:10:56 -0700: > My Eee PC 2G Surf netbook though a PC is not really powerful enough to > run any reasonable version of Windows. Actually it should run Windows 2000 SP4 very well. As I created a slipstream SP4 version and it was only 700MB in size after installation. Although I did also use Windows Update and that would overwhelm your 2GB SSD. Even the 4GB SSD I did this one filled up to about 3GB. So without any updates, Windows 2000 SP4 should be just fine on that machine. I believe if I only had a 2GB SSD machine, that is what I would do. And your 512MB of RAM is perfect for Windows 2000. As it should run fine even without a swapfile. > It has a stunted version of > Xandros (Linux) that while it comes with lots of usable software is > difficult to impossible to upgrade. However it works great for what it > was designed for and it is still my choice when traveling. However > when a >US$200, 7 hour battery, tiny, cool running, instant loading > netbook comes along that fits my traveling needs I'll probably give it > a try. Heck except for the teeny screen my Palm TX does all that and I > paid north of $300 for it... Are you considering one of those Windows CE netbooks? :-o >> The previous models discussed are not PC's, have limited expansion > > My Eee PC 2G Surf netbook although a PC has most everything soldered > in...virtually no expansion possible. But I doubt the average Joe > cares in this type of device. I didn't. I was thinking of you when I posted this thread. As I for one would rather have your limited machine than one of those Windows CE ones. As yours has more RAM, more CPU power, and can actually run a real Windows. Okay Windows XP would be tough, but it will run Windows 2000 without problems. Well if you stay away from updates anyway. ;-) >> If windows CE could be dropped off these, and eldy installed then these >> could perhaps get some serious use. >> http://www.eldy.eu > > From what I can tell in my local (Phoenix) big box stores the public > here has spoken. I no longer see any 7 or 9" netbooks, 10" seems to be > the smallest. And I haven't seen a Linux powered netbook in months. So > whether an underpowered tiny screened netbook without Windows would > sell or not is yet to be seen... It is funny. The first netbooks didn't have Windows at all, but just Linux. I thought things were going pretty well actually. And manufactures (ok at this time it was just Asus) didn't want to sell Windows systems because it was too costly. Well Microsoft didn't want Linux to get big into the netbook craze, offered them a great deal on Windows XP. So Asus went for it. So when users were given a choice, would spent a few bucks more for a Windows version. I guess the word is out about Linux. And that is, when in doubt... get Windows. Linux itself isn't too bad, but the worst part is that it isn't Windows. And I think this is what turns most people off about Linux. -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: AJL on 12 Dec 2009 02:00
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >AJL wrote on Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:10:56 -0700: >> My Eee PC 2G Surf netbook though a PC is not really powerful enough to >> run any reasonable version of Windows. >Actually it should run Windows 2000 SP4 very well. Could be. Asus apparently thinks the 2G Surf will run XP since they included the XP drivers on my (Xandros) restore disk. >Are you considering one of those Windows CE netbooks? :-o Maybe, if I ever see one sitting on the shelf at my local Target. I often buy on impulse. Earlier impulse buys at that Target store were my first Palm and my first Eee PC. I certainly have enjoyed those. >I for one would rather have your limited machine than one of those >Windows CE ones. As yours has more RAM, more CPU power... If all I do with it is to surf, email, Usenet, ect. then I really don't need more computing power. The new netbook may actually run cool (unlike my 2G Surf lap heater) with no fan (and no fan noise). It would have a real battery life (maybe 7 hours instead of the 2G Surf's measly 2.5 hours) and perhaps will be yet even smaller and lighter. >The first netbooks didn't have Windows at all, but just Linux.... The return ratio for Linux netbooks was substantially higher than for Windows netbooks. IMO that was a lot of the reason. >Linux itself isn't too bad, but the worst part is that it isn't >Windows. And I think this is what turns most people off about Linux. You yourself prefer Windows, you've said it here many times. While I have enjoyed playing with several versions of the Linux OS it always seemed to me to be a bit of challenge. That's fine for hobbyists but not for the general public. And that seems to be how they have voted with their wallets. |