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From: BillW50 on 20 Dec 2009 01:16 In news:t2rqi5d0cljggkmf7ac98bt8cevg4vopjl(a)4ax.com, AJL typed on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:21:57 -0700: > "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >> anything available besides Firefox? > > I often use Kommander on my 2G Surf, but that probably wouldn't > impress you much either. Well if you like it and you being a respected member of this community, it is worth checking out. <grin> >> I like Opera 10.10 > > Seems to be available (even an Xandros Eee PC version at the bottom): > http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux Good deal! Opera itself is near perfect, but it falls short when it comes to Firefox and/or IE only scripts. It has to be something, doesn't it? >> and IE6 far better. > > You can do that too: > http://digg.com/programming/How_to_run_IE6_on_Linux_(wine_is_getting_pretty_impressive) Come on really? Did you try it? I have been following Wine years ago and they made a name for themselves by getting MS Office to run. Do you really believe they really have moved on much farther? >> [Xandros] advanced mode takes twice as long). > > Course you don't have to use advanced mode. A few file tweaks to the > included Ice Window Manager gives you a Windows like start icon with > the same expanding menu selection. Makes me feel right at home...just > like using my XP netbook... ;) Okay it is on my to do list. Hopefully Xandros won't barf and restore everything to the factory state before then. >> Although all of that greatness is lost when you >> have to wait for the WiFi connection to connect. If I remember >> correctly, that takes another 30-45 seconds with a WPA connection. > > WiFi startup is slow on my Linux Eee but it's not Xandros. I think > it's a hardware thing since all the other OS's I tried took just as > long. And it's still faster than my Vista notebook which takes well > over a minute just to boot... ;) Add it up, even with a 30 to 45 second delay time for the Xandros to grab WiFi, you already have Vista loaded and WiFi connected. > Irony: When transistors came in I remember how glad I was that I would > never again have to wait for my electronic toys to warm up... Things I though was going well in the early 80's. Commodores booted in like 5 seconds, my Epson PX-8 booted CP/M in like 2 seconds. But nowadays I actually have to wait? What is up with that? Sure applications were far slower back then. But OS were far faster too. >> all of the OS I have used; RT-11, CP/M, >> DOS, CBM, GEOS, Windows, OS/2, etc. none of them even come close to >> the language used in Linux. > > I was surprised to find that most of the more common DOS commands I > use to use also work in the Linux terminal window. Really? Please share. As there was like five basic DOS commands that were built into Command.com. I'll probably get this partially wrong, but like DIR, COPY, REN, DEL, and TYPE. So which ones are the same under Linux? >> Like the Linux/Unix command sudo for example! It doesn't even sound >> English. But it sounds like Klingon talk or something. > > I've heard a lot of complaints about Linux in these Linux/Windows wars > but not sounding like English is a definitely a first... Really? Well I do come up with things that it seems like nobody else has before. Chalk it up to deep thinking? Btw, I don't refer them as wars, but as personal experiences. <grin> P.S. I do regret saying that "switchuser do" sounds pretty meaningless. After some more thought, it sounds more like baby talk to me. Although that doesn't impress me anymore. -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: felmon on 20 Dec 2009 02:18 On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:28:31 -0600, BillW50 wrote: > But most home users do. So is there a distro of Linux that fills this > need? Currently I have hundreds of DVDs I have recorded in 6 hours > format per disc. There are zillions of Windows programs out there that > can handle this task. Although I have been putting this task off until I > find the fastest and the most productive way to compress these videos > and store them on TBs of disk space. I am not sure this is a question of "which distro?" but of "which apps to use?" but I am not quite sure what you are trying to do either. not that I can necessarily help but if you give a bit more detail or even just name the Windows application that does the job, perhaps I, or more likely, someone else, can set it up for you in Linux. I am not that versed in Windows apps so I can't judge but I find Linux generally easier (yes, partly due to familiarity, I grant) to use for this sort of thing. usually requires a simple command and done - except for processing time. I am very curious what you are doing since I like playing with video stuff. again, I hasten to repeat, I don't know if I can help directly. but I also repeat, this seems a matter of finding the right programs, not the right operating system. Felmon
From: felmon on 20 Dec 2009 02:24 On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:19:41 +0000, Richard Bonner wrote: > BillW50 (BillW50(a)aol.kom) wrote: >> I was just playing a WMA file under Linux and opened up the Add/Remove >> utility and then the Music Manager player locked up. Killed the process >> and now it says that file is gone from my flash disk. Why people put up >> with Linux with the amateurish applications is beyond my comprehension. > >> -- >> Bill > > *** It's not Linux - it's the amateurish applications. (-: would only be a consolation if one could use the operating system, or the kernel, without applications. but I understand you are being ironical. I do think when a person is uncomfortable with an operating system and its apps, they have experiences like BillW50's though. it would be nice if more Linux apps had 'spit and polish', if they _looked_ neater and more finished. for this reason I love k3b. it is easy enough to burn a dvd from the commandline but k3b is a pleasure to use. Felmon
From: felmon on 20 Dec 2009 02:27 On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:05:09 +0000, Richard Bonner wrote: > *** I haven't fired up Knoppix in some time, so I was unaware that > newer applications were not available. I recommended it because it seems > easy for Windows users to catch on to it. can you correct a possible misunderstanding of mine? I was under the impression one shouldn't actually _install_ Knoppix, in other words, it is _essentially_ a _live_ distribution. is this wrong? a year or so ago I actually installed it and when problem-shooting, a seemingly knowledgeable fellow insisted that was a bad idea. I soon decided he was right. maybe more recent stuff now permits installation? it is a great live distribution though! Felmon
From: AJL on 20 Dec 2009 11:50
"BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >AJL typed on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:21:57 -0700: >> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> I often use Kommander on my 2G Surf, but that probably wouldn't >> impress you much either. > >Well if you like it and you being a respected member of this community, >it is worth checking out. <grin> On my 2G Surf netbook Kommander was already installed, just hidden. Asus apparently thought that Firefox was the better choice for the general non-Linux public. Try typing "Kommander" in the terminal window to see if your Eee already has it. If so it's easy to add to the IWM Start menu. >Opera itself is near perfect, but it falls short when it >comes to Firefox and/or IE only scripts. It has to be something, doesn't >it? Depends on what you do. I like to read newspapers and news sites which is mostly text and photos. So I actually like the Firefox 2 that came on the Surf. I use the Noscript add-on which removes the moving ads and speeds up the page loading. But yes on my Windows machines I have them all, Opera, Chrome, Safari ect and IE of course. >> http://digg.com/programming/How_to_run_IE6_on_Linux_(wine_is_getting_pretty_impressive) > >Come on really? Did you try it? No I have no need of IE6. Question is did you try it? You were the one who wanted IE6 on Linux. Nothing ventured nothing gained... >I have been following Wine years ago and >they made a name for themselves by getting MS Office to run. Do you >really believe they really have moved on much farther? Only way to find out is try it. On my Surf I have Sea Monkey and this Agent newsreader working using wine. >Things I though was going well in the early 80's. Commodores booted in >like 5 seconds, my Epson PX-8 booted CP/M in like 2 seconds. My Palms still boot instantly. Upcoming netbooks will have instant booting to the communication services. I believe one is currently advertised. >> I was surprised to find that most of the more common DOS commands I >> use to use also work in the Linux terminal window. > >Really? Please share. As there was like five basic DOS commands that >were built into Command.com. I'll probably get this partially wrong, but >like DIR, COPY, REN, DEL, and TYPE. So which ones are the same under >Linux? These DOS commands work on my 2G Surf: CD CLS COPY DATE DEL DIR ECHO EXIT FC FIND HOSTNAME MKDIR MORE PING REN SET TIME TYPE... |