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From: AJL on 19 Dec 2009 13:11 "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >AJL typed on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:59:03 -0700: >> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> The repository address is built into the OS download package. Just a >> couple of clicks to download and install any of the repositories >> listed programs. > >Can I update my two year old Firefox this way? In the more popular Linux OSs that I've tried, the repository that the download package points to is kept current including Firefox. >Which Linux distro allows you grab a file from a webpage and allows >installation by double clicking on it. Dunno. I've only tried a tiny portion of distros, though more than 3... ;) But your question is probably retorical meaning you think no. Is this where we start listing what each OS can and can't do? I'll bet the church of Linux could think of a few things that the Windows devil can't do... ;) >I tried Puppy Linux and Ubuntu that were setup for the EeePC. Although I >never got the wireless to ever work right. Tried both. The wireless was ok on mine but I hated the long boot up times. Xandros is 25 seconds. Always something. (BTW XP is also 25 seconds and hibernation recovery is 13 seconds on my other Eee PC netbook...not bad for Windows.) >But then you have to put up with Xandros limitations. If you follow eeeuser.com you will see that Xandros can be modified to do about anything other distros can do. I enjoy playing with the innards but only as a hobbyist. Perhaps those limitations are more prevalent to you experts... ;)
From: BillW50 on 19 Dec 2009 14:28 In news:hgj0ia$c34$1(a)reader1.panix.com, the wharf rat typed on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:55:38 +0000 (UTC): > In article <hgil44$qjg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >> Thanks Richard! Although got any recommendations to a distro that >> everything actually works? The part of it being easy for Windows >> users > > I usually recommend CentOS or redhat to commercial users. Okay my fault. Let me explain. What makes Windows very popular is that it makes for a great general purpose desktop OS. While Linux tries to full those shoes, it does fall far short. Probably the worst part of Linux is in the multimedia department. Although drivers are another concern. Most businesses doesn't care about multimedia or drivers for their external devices too much. But most home users do. So is there a distro of Linux that fills this need? Currently I have hundreds of DVDs I have recorded in 6 hours format per disc. There are zillions of Windows programs out there that can handle this task. Although I have been putting this task off until I find the fastest and the most productive way to compress these videos and store them on TBs of disk space. I have found one program under Windows that seems to be the best I am going to get. As it compresses 4 times real time speed on these 1.5GHz Celerons. Having three of them will handle the task 12 times real time speed. So I am pretty much set to convert them all. And all I need is a program to read 6 hour DVD and allow me to trim the programs to individual files. And you really think Linux is up to this task? I also have been looking for a stream recorder for Linux that can handle my subscriptions. Under Windows there are a number of options. Under Linux, I see nothing that will work. -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: BillW50 on 19 Dec 2009 15:41 In news:2g1qi5l8r4l5fq5gaior6m2s2jbeoch25f(a)4ax.com, AJL typed on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:11:31 -0700: > "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >> AJL typed on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:59:03 -0700: >>> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >>> The repository address is built into the OS download package. Just a >>> couple of clicks to download and install any of the repositories >>> listed programs. >> >> Can I update my two year old Firefox this way? > > In the more popular Linux OSs that I've tried, the repository that the > download package points to is kept current including Firefox. Okay I believe you and I'll give it a shot. Although curiously, anything available besides Firefox? It is okay and everything, but I like Opera 10.10 and IE6 far better. >> Which Linux distro allows you grab a file from a webpage and allows >> installation by double clicking on it. > > Dunno. I've only tried a tiny portion of distros, though more than > 3... ;) But your question is probably retorical meaning you think > no. Is this where we start listing what each OS can and can't do? I'll > bet the church of Linux could think of a few things that the Windows > devil can't do... ;) You mean like needing repositories, which Windows hasn't seen the need for that yet? Although don't give Microsoft any bright ideas. If they only knew that they could make money off of Windows repositories, I am sure that will be coming. And that would be a good thing? >> I tried Puppy Linux and Ubuntu that were setup for the EeePC. >> Although I never got the wireless to ever work right. > > Tried both. The wireless was ok on mine but I hated the long boot up > times. Xandros is 25 seconds. Always something. (BTW XP is also 25 > seconds and hibernation recovery is 13 seconds on my other Eee PC > netbook...not bad for Windows.) Yes the Xandros in easy mode that boot time is very impressive (advanced mode takes twice as long). Although all of that greatness is lost when you have to wait for the WiFi connection to connect. If I remember correctly, that takes another 30-45 seconds with a WPA connection. >> But then you have to put up with Xandros limitations. > > If you follow eeeuser.com you will see that Xandros can be modified to > do about anything other distros can do. I enjoy playing with the > innards but only as a hobbyist. Perhaps those limitations are more > prevalent to you experts... ;) No it isn't that. It is that all of the OS I have used; RT-11, CP/M, DOS, CBM, GEOS, Windows, OS/2, etc. none of them even come close to the language used in Linux. So Linux is so dissimilar with all of them and it might as well be written in Greek to me. Maybe if I started with UNIX or Linux things would be a lot different. And maybe all of the others would be very difficult instead of so very easy for me. <grin> Like the Linux/Unix command sudo for example! It doesn't even sound English. But it sounds like Klingon talk or something. Worse, it is short for "switchuser do". And what kind of English is that? How is anybody supposed to learn something that doesn't make any sense whatsoever? Maybe if you are a geek and like Star Trek or something and can easily speak in Klingon, this stuff might come easy to you. But it isn't so easy for those of us less talented. <wink> -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: the wharf rat on 19 Dec 2009 18:51 In article <hgj9gr$8c2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >So I am pretty much set to convert them all. And all I need is a >program to read 6 hour DVD and allow me to trim the programs to >individual files. > I'm not really sure what you're asking. In any case the absence of one particular niche application isn't a condemnation of an entire genre of operating systems, is it? I'm sure a Mac would do what you want, BTW. Mac still owns much of the digital publishing/imaging world. Didn't Pixar used to use Irix???
From: AJL on 19 Dec 2009 20:21
"BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >anything available besides Firefox? I often use Kommander on my 2G Surf, but that probably wouldn't impress you much either. >I like Opera 10.10 Seems to be available (even an Xandros Eee PC version at the bottom): http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux >and IE6 far better. You can do that too: http://digg.com/programming/How_to_run_IE6_on_Linux_(wine_is_getting_pretty_impressive) >[Xandros] advanced mode takes twice as long). Course you don't have to use advanced mode. A few file tweaks to the included Ice Window Manager gives you a Windows like start icon with the same expanding menu selection. Makes me feel right at home...just like using my XP netbook... ;) >Although all of that greatness is lost when you >have to wait for the WiFi connection to connect. If I remember >correctly, that takes another 30-45 seconds with a WPA connection. WiFi startup is slow on my Linux Eee but it's not Xandros. I think it's a hardware thing since all the other OS's I tried took just as long. And it's still faster than my Vista notebook which takes well over a minute just to boot... ;) Irony: When transistors came in I remember how glad I was that I would never again have to wait for my electronic toys to warm up... >all of the OS I have used; RT-11, CP/M, >DOS, CBM, GEOS, Windows, OS/2, etc. none of them even come close to the >language used in Linux. I was surprised to find that most of the more common DOS commands I use to use also work in the Linux terminal window. >Like the Linux/Unix command sudo for example! It doesn't even sound >English. But it sounds like Klingon talk or something. I've heard a lot of complaints about Linux in these Linux/Windows wars but not sounding like English is a definitely a first... |