From: Richard Bonner on
felmon (nemo(a)nowhere.INVALID) wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:05:09 +0000, Richard Bonner wrote:
> > *** I haven't fired up Knoppix in some time, so I was unaware that
> > newer applications were not available. I recommended it because it seems
> > easy for Windows users to catch on to it.

> can you correct a possible misunderstanding of mine? I was under the
> impression one shouldn't actually _install_ Knoppix, in other words,
> it is _essentially_ a _live_ distribution. is this wrong?

*** I am not the right person to ask. I have only ever used the live CD.
However, Linux users have said to me that there is an "Install" option,
but I have never looked for it.


> a year or so ago I actually installed it and when problem-shooting, a
> seemingly knowledgeable fellow insisted that was a bad idea. I soon
> decided he was right.

> maybe more recent stuff now permits installation?

*** Perhaps a knowledgeable Knoppix reader here can answer that...


> it is a great live distribution though!

> Felmon

*** I thought so.

--
Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/

From: Richard Bonner on
AJL (339(a)fakeaddress.com) wrote:
> My Palms still boot instantly. Upcoming netbooks will have instant
> booting to the communication services. I believe one is currently
> advertised.

*** As as aside, a few years ago, a buddy of mine demonstrated a 486
laptop running some 1990's version of DOS and a WaveLan card. From power
switch to Google screen was 15 seconds!

--
Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
From: AJL on
ak621(a)chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) wrote:

>AJL (340(a)fakeaddress.com) wrote:

>> Since the advent of the smartpphone most popular websites have a
>> 'mobile' version that is designed for a small phone screen but also
>> works very well on a modern wireless PDA as well. No scrolling
>> required...
>
>*** True, but it means more work for a webpage author to design two
>versions of a website.

They do it to attract those mucho-million small screen users. More
eyeballs means more ad bux. So don't shed too many tears for those
poor overworked authors... ;)
From: BillW50 on
In news:xeCdnYbkOuAoUrDWnZ2dnUVZ_sBi4p2d(a)giganews.com,
felmon typed on Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:18:13 -0600:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:28:31 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>
>> But most home users do. So is there a distro of Linux that fills this
>> need? Currently I have hundreds of DVDs I have recorded in 6 hours
>> format per disc. There are zillions of Windows programs out there
>> that can handle this task. Although I have been putting this task
>> off until I find the fastest and the most productive way to compress
>> these videos and store them on TBs of disk space.
>
> I am not sure this is a question of "which distro?" but of "which
> apps to use?" but I am not quite sure what you are trying to do
> either.

Some are trying hard to convince me that all Linux applications run on
all distros of Linux. I don't see it as that way, but many Linux
applications only run on some distros. So whom do you agree with?

> not that I can necessarily help but if you give a bit more detail or
> even just name the Windows application that does the job, perhaps I,
> or more likely, someone else, can set it up for you in Linux.

Oh I shouldn't need anybody to help set me up. I just need somebody with
experience with Linux to point me in the right direction along with some
application names.

> I am not that versed in Windows apps so I can't judge but I find Linux
> generally easier (yes, partly due to familiarity, I grant) to use for
> this sort of thing. usually requires a simple command and done -
> except for processing time.

I can see that since I have ran many other OS. And I know many of them
very well. Just there isn't one Linux version though, but hundreds of
them. Thus I find it very difficult and very unlike the rest of the OS I
have used and understand very well before.

> I am very curious what you are doing since I like playing with video
> stuff.

Well I record lots of TV programs on a DVR on DVD in 6 hour format. It
should be a simple job to take hundreds of these and convert them to a
much smaller format to save space. General to play later on computers
and netbooks. And to keep them for old time sake. And it is so much
easier to sort them on massive TB hard drives anyway. As they are only
sorted by date on DVDs right now. And some are recorded one right after
another, so they have to be trimmed per program.

Sounds easy to do under Windows. Two problems though. Most programs
doesn't like this 6 hour low quality DVD format. And two wrong things
happen. Usually the height is stretched 2.5 times higher with this 6
hour format. Or it looks like the horizontal sync (in old TV talk) is
out of sync. So I only found a couple of Windows programs that actually
gets this right. There was others that were okay too, except they were
much slower at converting. When you have hundreds you want to convert,
you don't want a slow one.

People like wharf rat, wants others and myself to believe Linux can do
these things too. And I am sure there are a few programs out there for
Linux that can. But it is my belief based on the quality of Linux and
the applications that I have ran a crossed, that Linux applications will
not be any better than the 95% of Windows applications that I already
rejected.

> again, I hasten to repeat, I don't know if I can help directly. but I
> also repeat, this seems a matter of finding the right programs, not
> the right operating system.

Well yes, Felmon. There are other tasks that I do like stream recording,
PDA sync, glucose meter interfacing, a Windows only glucose database
application, KW-TVUSB506RF-PRO tuner, etc. Now wharf rat wants others
and myself to believe that Linux cannot only do this all, but better.
Personally when I run Linux, I don't see this at all. But I rather see
Linux as a barebones OS and your choices are very limited. But for some
people, this is all they need. But for 90% or more, we need far more
than what Linux can provide for us.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2


From: BillW50 on
AJL wrote:
> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> AJL typed on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:21:57 -0700:
>>> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>>> I often use Kommander on my 2G Surf, but that probably wouldn't
>>> impress you much either.
>> Well if you like it and you being a respected member of this community,
>> it is worth checking out. <grin>
>
> On my 2G Surf netbook Kommander was already installed, just hidden.
> Asus apparently thought that Firefox was the better choice for the
> general non-Linux public. Try typing "Kommander" in the terminal
> window to see if your Eee already has it. If so it's easy to add to
> the IWM Start menu.

Okay 20 seconds to boot up Xandros. Had a long wait for the wireless to
connect though.

/home/user> kommander
bash: kommander: command not found

Nope! I guess it isn't there. <sigh>

So what is this IWM Start Menu? Advanced mode? The KDE desktop?

>> Opera itself is near perfect, but it falls short when it
>> comes to Firefox and/or IE only scripts. It has to be something, doesn't
>> it?
>
> Depends on what you do. I like to read newspapers and news sites which
> is mostly text and photos. So I actually like the Firefox 2 that came
> on the Surf. I use the Noscript add-on which removes the moving ads
> and speeds up the page loading. But yes on my Windows machines I have
> them all, Opera, Chrome, Safari ect and IE of course.

Good deal!

>>> http://digg.com/programming/How_to_run_IE6_on_Linux_(wine_is_getting_pretty_impressive)
>> Come on really? Did you try it?
>
> No I have no need of IE6. Question is did you try it? You were the one
> who wanted IE6 on Linux. Nothing ventured nothing gained...

No I always hear complains about it and it sounds nice for a limited
amount of Windows applications. But if you are running it on your Surf,
than it is worth checking out.

>> I have been following Wine years ago and
>> they made a name for themselves by getting MS Office to run. Do you
>> really believe they really have moved on much farther?
>
> Only way to find out is try it. On my Surf I have Sea Monkey and this
> Agent newsreader working using wine.

Oh good deal. You have Wine running on your Surf?

>> Things I though was going well in the early 80's. Commodores booted in
>> like 5 seconds, my Epson PX-8 booted CP/M in like 2 seconds.
>
> My Palms still boot instantly. Upcoming netbooks will have instant
> booting to the communication services. I believe one is currently
> advertised.

Someday all machines will be like this. <grin>

>>> I was surprised to find that most of the more common DOS commands I
>>> use to use also work in the Linux terminal window.
>> Really? Please share. As there was like five basic DOS commands that
>> were built into Command.com. I'll probably get this partially wrong, but
>> like DIR, COPY, REN, DEL, and TYPE. So which ones are the same under
>> Linux?
>
> These DOS commands work on my 2G Surf:
>
> CD
> CLS
> COPY
> DATE
> DEL
> DIR
> ECHO
> EXIT
> FC
> FIND
> HOSTNAME
> MKDIR
> MORE
> PING
> REN
> SET
> TIME
> TYPE...

Oh okay. Well lots of things are far different too.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)