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From: AJL on 22 Dec 2009 00:29 BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >/home/user> kommander >bash: kommander: command not found > >Nope! I guess it isn't there. <sigh> Sorry my bad. Try typing "konqueror" not kommander. Those damn KDE app names always screw with my brain. I mean konqueror and kommander kinda sound the same don't they... :( >So what is this IWM Start Menu? Ice Window Manager gives you a green (MS Windows like) 'Start' icon in the lower left corner . And the menu unfolds exactly the same with submenus. To add menu text and icons you edit a menu file in the hidden folder .icewm using a text editor. >Advanced mode? It's in Easy Mode. Here are the directions: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:icewmstartmenu#enabling_the_icewm_start_menu_in_easy_mode >You have Wine running on your Surf? Yes. And much of the .exe stuff I try crashes as you surmised. But then some doesn't. And as I said before you just have to try it and see... http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:wine?s[]=wine >Someday all machines will be like this [instant on]. <grin> My Atari 800XL was instant on and that was nice. Course waiting several minutes for the cassette tape to load a single program kind of spoiled it a bit... ;)
From: the wharf rat on 22 Dec 2009 00:45 In article <hgp9vm$qgq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >People like wharf rat, wants others and myself to believe Linux can do >these things too. And I am sure there are a few programs out there for Oh, great Ghu... Look, what format are your existing files in? What format do you want them to be in? Let me know and if I'll see if I can find a converter. >application, KW-TVUSB506RF-PRO tuner, etc. Now wharf rat wants others >and myself to believe that Linux cannot only do this all, but better. Oh, great Ghu... Will you please stop trolling? If you're really interested in seeing if you can run these devices on Linux send me some mail and I'll see if I can help. I don't think this is at all on topic for this group. But please stop trolling. It's undignified, to say the least.
From: BillW50 on 23 Dec 2009 07:28 In news:hgpmd5$7el$1(a)reader1.panix.com, the wharf rat typed on Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:45:10 +0000 (UTC): > In article <hgp9vm$qgq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >> People like wharf rat, wants others and myself to believe Linux can >> do these things too. And I am sure there are a few programs out >> there for > > Oh, great Ghu... > > Look, what format are your existing files in? What format > do you want them to be in? Let me know and if I'll see if I can find > a converter. I've talked about this many times. The *big* job I want to do is to convert hundreds of on TV recorded DVDs in 6 hour (SLP) format to WMA or FLV format. I also need the ability to trim, since a lot of shows are on the same disc. >> application, KW-TVUSB506RF-PRO tuner, etc. Now wharf rat wants others >> and myself to believe that Linux cannot only do this all, but better. > > Oh, great Ghu... > > Will you please stop trolling? If you're really interested > in seeing if you can run these devices on Linux send me some mail and > I'll see if I can help. I don't think this is at all on topic for > this group. > > But please stop trolling. It's undignified, to say the least. Trolling? You have the wrong guy and you trying to pull this off in the wrong newsgroup. As people know me too well to be fooled into that one. And speaking about trolling, a quick Google search shows you have been a professional troll for over a decade now. And an expertise troll in hundreds of newsgroups. And when you got into Linux, you started to target Windows users. And back in December 19, 1998 you stated: "I'm the wharf rat because everyone said I'd come to no good... ". I guess you showed them, eh? And for the rest of you, I Googled Ghu and in Klingon, it means baby. -- Bill Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
From: felmon on 24 Dec 2009 04:56 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:22:29 +0000, Richard Bonner wrote: > felmon (nemo(a)nowhere.INVALID) wrote: >[...] >> it would be nice if more Linux apps had 'spit and polish', if they >> _looked_ neater and more finished. for this reason I love k3b. it is >> easy enough to burn a dvd from the commandline but k3b is a pleasure to >> use. > >> Felmon > > *** For the typical user, I agree. For myself, I want maximum > performance without the eye candy. I confess I can't always recall the syntax. Felmon
From: felmon on 25 Dec 2009 12:43
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:13:14 -0600, BillW50 wrote: > In news:xeCdnYbkOuAoUrDWnZ2dnUVZ_sBi4p2d(a)giganews.com, felmon typed on > Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:18:13 -0600: >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:28:31 -0600, BillW50 wrote: >> >>> But most home users do. So is there a distro of Linux that fills this >>> need? Currently I have hundreds of DVDs I have recorded in 6 hours >>> format per disc. There are zillions of Windows programs out there that >>> can handle this task. Although I have been putting this task off until >>> I find the fastest and the most productive way to compress these >>> videos and store them on TBs of disk space. >> >> I am not sure this is a question of "which distro?" but of "which apps >> to use?" but I am not quite sure what you are trying to do either. > > Some are trying hard to convince me that all Linux applications run on > all distros of Linux. I don't see it as that way, but many Linux > applications only run on some distros. So whom do you agree with? sorry for the delay - busy week and I overlooked your reply. I wasn't speaking to this issue about all apps running on all distributions but - leaving aside that 'all' is a big word - I tend to side with those who say 'all' apps run on 'all' _current_ distributions but what do I know? I think there can be problems if you use different 'shells'. you evidently have found some that don't run everywhere though. you have probably mentioned one already but do you mind mentioning it again? >> not that I can necessarily help but if you give a bit more detail or >> even just name the Windows application that does the job, perhaps I, or >> more likely, someone else, can set it up for you in Linux. > > Oh I shouldn't need anybody to help set me up. I just need somebody with > experience with Linux to point me in the right direction along with some > application names. > >> I am not that versed in Windows apps so I can't judge but I find Linux >> generally easier (yes, partly due to familiarity, I grant) to use for >> this sort of thing. usually requires a simple command and done - except >> for processing time. > > I can see that since I have ran many other OS. And I know many of them > very well. Just there isn't one Linux version though, but hundreds of > them. Thus I find it very difficult and very unlike the rest of the OS I > have used and understand very well before. I myself don't care about a hundred variations on a theme. I use a couple which work well enough. if something doesn't work, I wouldn't think to change distributions to fix it. (I would if it were a hardware issue since some distributions seem to do a better job with it than others.) I wholly disagree with the fellow in another threadlet who implied one has to try a hundred versions in order to make a judgment about whether Linux suits one. if I couldn't get Linux working to my satisfaction after three or so distinct distributions, that would be it, at least until I became curious again about its development. and if I had all the problems you have with Linux, I certainly would stow it away. I just have never experienced such things as the registry being wiped out because I deleted a file and so on. not sure I would conclude that all Linux is bad but I might. I don't like working in the Mac either and would probably trash some stuff. many use it with joy. so I conclude "it's not for me (now)." >> I am very curious what you are doing since I like playing with video >> stuff. > > Well I record lots of TV programs on a DVR on DVD in 6 hour format. It > should be a simple job to take hundreds of these and convert them to a > much smaller format to save space. General to play later on computers > and netbooks. And to keep them for old time sake. And it is so much > easier to sort them on massive TB hard drives anyway. As they are only > sorted by date on DVDs right now. And some are recorded one right after > another, so they have to be trimmed per program. > > Sounds easy to do under Windows. Two problems though. Most programs > doesn't like this 6 hour low quality DVD format. And two wrong things > happen. Usually the height is stretched 2.5 times higher with this 6 > hour format. Or it looks like the horizontal sync (in old TV talk) is > out of sync. So I only found a couple of Windows programs that actually > gets this right. There was others that were okay too, except they were > much slower at converting. When you have hundreds you want to convert, > you don't want a slow one. this seems the job of a relatively simple ffmpeg script run in a bash shell. I would undertake if I had the time and I'd have to study up on the parameters. I am certain you can do it, maybe easier than I. and given that ffmpeg is available on Windows (mencoder too, I think), you could just cook up a script 'at home'. but you are right, I don't know of any single application off the shelf which will do this in Linux. maybe one exists but I have never sought it. > People like wharf rat, wants others and myself to believe Linux can do > these things too. And I am sure there are a few programs out there for > Linux that can. But it is my belief based on the quality of Linux and > the applications that I have ran a crossed, that Linux applications will > not be any better than the 95% of Windows applications that I already > rejected. > >> again, I hasten to repeat, I don't know if I can help directly. but I >> also repeat, this seems a matter of finding the right programs, not the >> right operating system. > > Well yes, Felmon. There are other tasks that I do like stream recording, > PDA sync, glucose meter interfacing, a Windows only glucose database > application, KW-TVUSB506RF-PRO tuner, etc. Now wharf rat wants others > and myself to believe that Linux cannot only do this all, but better. > Personally when I run Linux, I don't see this at all. But I rather see > Linux as a barebones OS and your choices are very limited. But for some > people, this is all they need. But for 90% or more, we need far more > than what Linux can provide for us. I cannot speak for wharf rat but there are definitely apps which are Windows only or which lack equivalents (perhaps in quality at least of interface) in Linux. it doesn't follow that Linux is 'barebones' though, that's not logical. and if wharf rat says 'Linux' can do this or that, then he must be speaking loosely since it is _apps_ that do this or that; Linux lacks apps in some domains, it has good ones in others, and not so good ones in some. that was where I came in: it is confusing how complaints about applications are phrased as complaints about the operating system. for many practical purposes that's alright but when it comes down to specifics, that can cause confusion. btw I do the same thing: record tv programs and sometimes rejigger them though I mostly cut and edit and sometimes convert to flv or whatever for certain purposes. for a while I was burning a tv program to a dvd for a friend who can't receive it. I didn't hassle with aspect ratios though or the other stuff you are contending with. sorry for the longwinded post. got a bit carried away.... Felmon |