From: nospam on
In article <Xns9D7693786CB1Enoonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone(a)home.com> wrote:

> > except that half of the people buying macs and even ipads are windows
> > users, buying their first apple product.
>
> You must live on another planet, not just New Zealand. Maybe your
> statement is true in New Zealand where you live but certainly not America
> where I live.....or was your admission you live in New Zealand just another
> of your lies?

i have never said i live in new zealand. i don't live there nor have i
been anywhere near there, although i would like to visit sometime.

as for living on another planet, suck on this:

<http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/report-50-percent-of-ipad-own
ers-use-windows.ars>

More than 50 percent of all iPad users have a computer running some
variant of Windows in their homes, according to data collected by
advertising group Chitika.

apple repeatedly cites surveys they've done about people buying macs,
ipods and other products and has found about 50% are new apple
customers. i don't have a specific link for that, other than listen to
the quarterly earnings reports where they mention it fairly
consistently.
From: Steve Sobol on
In article <d75bcdc0-6517-4800-81ef-277fde0811d5@
42g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, miso(a)sushi.com says...


> Google can code. There is no question about it. RIM had to buy a
> company to get (hopefully) a decent browser. Apple had to hack KDE to
> make Safari. Google can get a blank sheet and create very good first
> effort code. These guys (Google) are good.

Chrome and Safari are both based on the same open-source HTML rendering
engine.... WebKit.



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sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: Larry on
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in news:120520101449584901%
nospam(a)nospam.invalid:

> i have never said i live in new zealand. i don't live there nor have i
> been anywhere near there, although i would like to visit sometime.
>
>

Oops...Got my fanboiz mixed up. I apologize. "Your Name" is the fanboi
who lives in NZ and knows everything about iPad he has never laid eyes on.



--
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.

Larry

From: Mike Easter on
a.i.w only

Steve Sobol wrote:
> miso(a)sushi.com says...
>
>
>> Google can code. There is no question about it. RIM had to buy a
>> company to get (hopefully) a decent browser. Apple had to hack KDE to
>> make Safari. Google can get a blank sheet and create very good first
>> effort code. These guys (Google) are good.
>
> Chrome and Safari are both based on the same open-source HTML rendering
> engine.... WebKit.

Not exactly the same...

.... which webkit (1) was derived (for safari) from a fork of khtml
developed by kde.

WebKit2 was built from the ground up - evolved from webkit - following
the chrome model of split process.


--
Mike Easter
From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:49:58 -0400, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid>
wrote:

><http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/report-50-percent-of-ipad-owners-use-windows.ars>
>
> More than 50 percent of all iPad users have a computer running some
> variant of Windows in their homes, according to data collected by
> advertising group Chitika.

I know of about 5 local iPad buyers. All are otherwise Windoze users.
However, 4 of them are also iPod Touch users, which for some odd
reason doesn't seem to be classified as a computer, despite being
about 99% similar to an iPad. I think if you dig deeper into the
statistics, a large portion of the iPad buyers just want a better iPod
Touch. (Just a guess).

>apple repeatedly cites surveys they've done about people buying macs,
>ipods and other products and has found about 50% are new apple
>customers. i don't have a specific link for that, other than listen to
>the quarterly earnings reports where they mention it fairly
>consistently.

I just love such statistics. Since Apple has about 10% of the PC
market, if the 50% trend continues, all computers will be Apple
computers within 20 years. (Hint: Trends don't continue for long.)

This is a year old, but is probably still true:
<http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/23/premium_priced_computer_market_dominated_by_apple.html>
While the average Windows machine in June sold for $515,
the average Apple machine came in at $1,400.
Translation: The average Apple computer buyer pays over twice as much
for his hardware. That's not quite true for iPhone versus Droid, but
with the 2:1 deal that Verizon is offering on the Droid, it's close.

This is a spreadsheet comparing Dell and Apple products I produced in
Dec 2009.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/Mac-vs-PC.xls>
I did my best to select comparable products. Most of the Dell
products are now obsolete and have been replaced with other machines.
All the Apple machines listed are unchanged (as of about 2 weeks ago).
Bottom line is that Apple products cost about twice as much, except
for the 13" MacBook.

If all this is true, then Apple can sell its iPhones for twice the
price of the Android phones, and not lose any customers or new sales.
Except in luxury items, I don't know of any other industry that has
such company (not product) loyalty.

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