From: Justin on
nospam wrote on [Thu, 13 May 2010 18:40:14 -0400]:
> In article <bhqou5dp8nad70fpkupvbts8tfmr9b5pje(a)4ax.com>, Jeff
> Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> However, USB 3.0 is out and becoming
>> available on the PC.
>
> not very fast it isn't.
>
> <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20001891-64.html>
>
> USB 3.0 will not see widespread adoption until at least late 2011
> because of lack of direct support from Intel. As a result, the new
> standard may not become as prevalent this decade as USB 2.0 has been
> through most of the past decade.

You can get it on plenty of PCs and motherboards already

>> For reliable and screaming performance, I use
>> eSATA.
>
> esata is useful too, but no bus power.

USB 2 doesn't have enough bus power anyway
nore does 1394a

From: nospam on
In article <1p3pu5h41s6ln50qfq6rnsbplu6j5cunfb(a)4ax.com>, Jeff
Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

> >they know their fragile network would crumble, so they're avoiding it
> >as long as possible. i bet when verizon gets the iphone and offers
> >tethering, at&t will suddenly figure out how to add it.
>
> Verizon already offers $15/month tethering and sharing:

at&t offers tethering too, just not for iphone users.

> No doom and disaster anywhere in sight. For a short time in April,
> tethering was free with Palm Pre and some other phones.

there aren't enough palm pre phones to matter :)

the problem is that iphone users consume a *lot* more bandwidth than
other users (10x as much by some reports) and at&t is terrified with
what will happen if they offer tethering. their network is already
buckling under the stress, why make it worse?

> Wi-Fi sharing:
> <http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=products_mifi>

mifi is a cool product.

i'm considering a zoom 4506 3g router, with a usb port for a 3g modem.
it's a lot like a cradlepoint, but offers 802.11n, works with a *lot*
more usb modems and is much less expensive. what are your thoughts on
that one?

> >iphone subscribers have a higher average monthly revenue. at&t does
> >*not* want to lose the exclusive.
>
> Considering the 3G coverage issues, much of the customer loyalty would
> evaporate if AT&T loses the exclusive. Hacking the iPhone onto
> TMobile seems to be rather popular.

an iphone on t-mobile is easy, but with no 3g. however, even 2g on
t-mobile can be faster than at&t, especially when there is no at&t
service at all.

> >verizon has said they want the iphone, it's up to apple. they *are*
> >losing some users to at&t, but some users value a non-sucky network
> >over an iphone, and maybe buy an ipod touch instead.
>
> That's me.

you and a lot of people.

> I have an iPod Touch 2G and a junk cell phone on Verizon.
> I've tried various combinations of smart and dumb phones and this is
> my current favorite. It's the loyalty of users to Apple that are
> keeping AT&T from losing most of their iPhone customers.

no, it's satisfaction with the iphone. you cite a changewave study,
they're the ones that found 99% of iphone users are satisfied or very
satisfied, the highest of any phone. it's going to be *really*
interesting when other carriers get it.

> >at&t isn't the one who is scaling it back. skype chose to limit voip
> >over 3g.
>
> Nope. In order to get Apple to approve Skype on the iPhone, Skype had
> to make it so it would only work over Wi-Fi.

originally. that changed not that long ago.

<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/02/skype-says-new-3g-ip
hone-app-coming-really-soon-will-have-cdquality-sound.html>

After the news last week that Apple and AT&T are now allowing VoIP
apps to make phone calls over the 3G network, Skype said it's still
waiting to release a new 3G-ready version of its software for the
iPhone.

> However, I suspect that Verizon will be no better. VZW alread limits
> features and functions on their phones:

true, verizon is well known for that, plus brew is so tightly
controlled it makes apple look like a paradise. :)
From: nospam on
In article <hsi8sm$4hh$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
<nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:

> >> However, USB 3.0 is out and becoming
> >> available on the PC.
> >
> > not very fast it isn't.
> >
> > <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20001891-64.html>
> >
> > USB 3.0 will not see widespread adoption until at least late 2011
> > because of lack of direct support from Intel. As a result, the new
> > standard may not become as prevalent this decade as USB 2.0 has been
> > through most of the past decade.
>
> You can get it on plenty of PCs and motherboards already

just not from intel...

> USB 2 doesn't have enough bus power anyway
> nore does 1394a

firewire is rated at 45 watts maximum. most computers don't source that
much though. apple used to do 15 watts (and higher long, long ago) but
lately their laptops and even the imac are 7 watts, compared to 2.5
watts for usb. you can use two, sometimes three bus-powered drives on
firewire.
From: Justin on
nospam wrote on [Thu, 13 May 2010 22:07:05 -0400]:
> In article <hsi8sm$4hh$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <nospam(a)insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> >> However, USB 3.0 is out and becoming
>> >> available on the PC.
>> >
>> > not very fast it isn't.
>> >
>> > <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20001891-64.html>
>> >
>> > USB 3.0 will not see widespread adoption until at least late 2011
>> > because of lack of direct support from Intel. As a result, the new
>> > standard may not become as prevalent this decade as USB 2.0 has been
>> > through most of the past decade.
>>
>> You can get it on plenty of PCs and motherboards already
>
> just not from intel...

Nope, but that hasn't stopped 3rd party chips from being integrated on Intel based motherboards.

From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Thu, 13 May 2010 22:04:40 -0400, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>i'm considering a zoom 4506 3g router, with a usb port for a 3g modem.
>it's a lot like a cradlepoint, but offers 802.11n, works with a *lot*
>more usb modems and is much less expensive. what are your thoughts on
>that one?

Sorry, but no experience with the Zoom.

>no, it's satisfaction with the iphone. you cite a changewave study,
>they're the ones that found 99% of iphone users are satisfied or very
>satisfied, the highest of any phone.

Well, most people that pay an arm and a leg for something are not
going to admit that they made the wrong decision or that there are
problems. I see the same thing with Apple desktops, where nobody
complains, but most still buy AppleCare to cover the inevitable
failures. I once had an extreme example of this phenomenon. I was
involved in the design of a product where the first complaint arrived
only after shipping 3,000 units. A fast investigation showed that all
3,000 had the same problem, but nobody bothered to complain.

><http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/02/skype-says-new-3g-ip
>hone-app-coming-really-soon-will-have-cdquality-sound.html>
>
> After the news last week that Apple and AT&T are now allowing VoIP
> apps to make phone calls over the 3G network, Skype said it's still
> waiting to release a new 3G-ready version of its software for the
> iPhone.

Thanks. I didn't realize that had changed. eBay unloaded 56% of
Skype to Silver Lake Partners. eBay kept 30% with the rest going to
the original founders and various smaller investors. Needless to say,
many things have changed (including possibly adding advertising to the
software).

>true, verizon is well known for that, plus brew is so tightly
>controlled it makes apple look like a paradise. :)

Yep. Don't forget Verizon Open Development.
<https://www22.verizon.com/opendev/>

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