From: Mike Rosenberg on
Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > You think incorrectly.
>
> He may think correctly, but what he thinks is incorrect.
>
> I think different. ;-)

I stand corrected, although I'm sitting.

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From: nospam on
In article <jollyroger-E32973.16085708022010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> Mr. nospam's assertion that updates aren't important is pure bullshit.
> They are absolutely critical in many cases.

and in many cases they aren't. if it's not broken, don't fix it. same
for a lot of things.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <michelle-40E352.12335408022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <1jdl9m2.1wu0m801x74k7aN%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>,
> kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:
>
> > > But I just noticed you said you have a switch. I'm a bit puzzled as
> > > to how things are connected now.
> >
> > Our Internet access is provided by a DSL modem which is connected to an
> > ethernet switch with approximately 10 or 12 ports. (I'm at home now, so
> > I can't look at it to confirm--there are a *whole* bunch of ports, maybe
> > 20 or 30, but I'm not sure they're all active and available for use.)
> > Each of our computers and printers is plugged into one of those ports.
> > If I got either an Express or other wireless router, it would be plugged
> > into one of the empty ports on the switch.
>
> Ah, that clarifies (and somewhat changes) things. In this case, you would
> need to set up the router as a bridge. And with that I'll bow out because
> there are people here more knowledgeable than I as to what and how you
> would need to do things.

On the contrary, I think it would be more secure to set the Express up
as a separate network. That way guests that connect to the Express would
not have access to resources (computers, printers, and so on) on the
main network.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <080220101420070752%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-E32973.16085708022010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > Mr. nospam's assertion that updates aren't important is pure bullshit.
> > They are absolutely critical in many cases.
>
> and in many cases they aren't. if it's not broken, don't fix it. same
> for a lot of things.

With all due respect, you're an idiot if you think security updates
aren't important.

I'm not having this argument with you. You're wrong - plain and simple.
You've done nothing but attempt to confuse things for the OP with your
trollish, inaccurate responses in this thread.

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From: Kathy Morgan on
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <1jdl5fr.76hjfd1bqwg2pN%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>,
> kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:
>
> > Do any routers that support guest networking allow you to put a time
> > limit on connections? With our slow connection speed, simply putting a
> > half-hour time limit on connections might be enough to stop any serious
> > pirating. Aside from moral and legal considerations, we have a 10 GB
> > per month upload/download limit, so we don't want anyone doing major
> > downloads. Of course, I guess even if there were a built-in time limit,
> > a person could simply reconnect after they timed out.
>
> You can set Mac OS X 10.6 (maybe earlier versions) to automatically log
> out after a given time period.

So you happen to know if that works any better in 10.6 than it did in
10.4? I have the librarian's iMac (which has 10.4 on it) set to
automatically log out after a given time period, but the automatic
logout usually fails due to an open document that hasn't been saved.
(I'm just asking out of idle curiousity.)

> I think it would be more effective to control which outbound ports are
> allowed through your router (if your router supports such controls), and
> what guests can do on the computers themselves. You might consider, for
> instance, installing Little Snitch on the Macs to limit outgoing
> connections to specific ports, like port 80.

Controling what people do on the library's Mac's should be fairly
straightforward; for this subthread I'm more concerned about what guests
who bring in their own laptop might do.

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