From: nospam on
In article <jollyroger-CF6C48.16315208022010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> > thanks for snipping the example where an update made things *worse*.
>
> You're welcome.
>
> That isn't by any means the norm.

perhaps not but it does happen. you seem to think updates are magically
perfect in all cases. they aren't.

it's also very easy to update a non-apple router (click one button),
and some even do it directly, no need to download a separate file.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <080220101522426017%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-CF6C48.16315208022010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > thanks for snipping the example where an update made things *worse*.
> >
> > You're welcome.
> >
> > That isn't by any means the norm.
>
> perhaps not but it does happen. you seem to think updates are magically
> perfect in all cases. they aren't.

I never stated anything of the sort. Don't try to put words in my mouth,
pal.

> it's also very easy to update a non-apple router (click one button),
> and some even do it directly, no need to download a separate file.

I've had Netgear routers that required you to download the firmware
update on your computer, then locate that file from the router
administration web page to update it. And after applying the update, the
router wouldn't detect the update was complete, leaving a novice person
to guess as to how to proceed.

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From: nospam on
In article <jollyroger-D43605.18092708022010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> I've had Netgear routers that required you to download the firmware
> update on your computer, then locate that file from the router
> administration web page to update it. And after applying the update, the
> router wouldn't detect the update was complete, leaving a novice person
> to guess as to how to proceed.

one crappy implementation doesn't mean all routers are like that.

usually you click a button and point it at a file, but some can
download it directly, and even check for it, much like your beloved
apple express.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <080220101522395827%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-7F9536.16343408022010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > With all due respect, you're an idiot if you think security updates
> > aren't important.
>
> i never said they weren't important. do not twist what i say.

No? Shall I remind you of what you said, verbatim?:

In article <080220101257043378%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1jdls0b.129yix012n7f63N%dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net>, Daniel
> Cohen <dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> > I've never updated my router(s). Maybe I'm missing something important.
>
> you're not.

Your statement that none of the updates to any of Daniel's routers were
important is bullshit, considering you don't know what routers he's
owned, and you don't know what updates have been released for them.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <michelle-584A78.16552308022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-1EF56F.16534508022010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On the contrary, I think it would be more secure to set the Express
> > > > up as a separate network. That way guests that connect to the
> > > > Express would not have access to resources (computers, printers, and
> > > > so on) on the main network.
> > >
> > > What would they have access to?
> >
> > "resources (computers, printers, and so on) on the main network"
>
> You said they would *not* have access to resources on the main network;
> what would they have access to?

They would have access to the internet, and to whatever resources you
make available to them on that network.

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