From: Kathy Morgan on
Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:

> AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I didn't follow the earlier parts of this thread; but I hope that
> > someone pointed out that once you have two Mini's installed, adding an
> > Airport Base Station will be a very low-cost way to provide WiFi and
> > thus Internet access to those patrons who may want to bring their own
> > laptops to the library.
>
> If all one wants to do is provide WiFi, an Airport Base Station is
> actually a relatively high cost means to that end. For the $179 it
> costs, you can buy at least four basic routers from other companies. No
> USB port, no ability to stream iTunes, etc., but if those features
> aren't needed, why pay for them? Other routers are usually more easily
> configured, from a web interface.

Oh, that sounds even better. We'll be applying for a competitive grant
to help pay for all this, and the more effectively we can use the money
the better our chances of receiving the grant. Can you make any brand
recommendations? It needs to be easy, since I'm the IT person and I've
no experience with wifi, and accessible from a Mac.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <1jdje5f.171ikaq7s7hdxN%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>,
kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1jdi52x.1077xms1e47jz0N%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>,
> > kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:
> >
> > > I just want to thank everyone here that helped me figure out how to
> > > accomplish what I need. As a result I've not only talked the library
> > > into getting a Mac as a replacement for the old Windows PC, we're going
> > > to replace it with *two* Mac Mini's and double our patrons' access. :-)
> >
> > So for those of us who missed it, what solution did you end up deciding
> > to use??
>
> I'm going to use a combination of the suggested solutions. I'll have
> adults use the Guest account, and use Kir�ly's directions to block them
> from adding items to /Users/Shared and user Child's drop boxes. Between
> WorkGroup Manager and the System Preferences I should be able to block
> children from accessing inappropriate sites. An AppleScript and/or
> Automater script should be able on login to remove anything a child has
> saved to the hard drive using the managed Child account.

Ah - sounds like a good plan. Thanks.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <1jdjelz.1tyla4yr2wz3N%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>,
kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:

> Mike Rosenberg <mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:
>
> > AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, I didn't follow the earlier parts of this thread; but I hope that
> > > someone pointed out that once you have two Mini's installed, adding an
> > > Airport Base Station will be a very low-cost way to provide WiFi and
> > > thus Internet access to those patrons who may want to bring their own
> > > laptops to the library.
> >
> > If all one wants to do is provide WiFi, an Airport Base Station is
> > actually a relatively high cost means to that end. For the $179 it
> > costs, you can buy at least four basic routers from other companies. No
> > USB port, no ability to stream iTunes, etc., but if those features
> > aren't needed, why pay for them? Other routers are usually more easily
> > configured, from a web interface.
>
> Oh, that sounds even better. We'll be applying for a competitive grant
> to help pay for all this, and the more effectively we can use the money
> the better our chances of receiving the grant. Can you make any brand
> recommendations? It needs to be easy, since I'm the IT person and I've
> no experience with wifi, and accessible from a Mac.

The problem with most non-Apple routers is they assume you know what you
are doing when it comes to setting them up securely through their web
administration interfaces. If you've got the money to spend, you might
consider getting an Airport Express instead. An Airport Express will
very likely do what you need if your needs aren't great, and you'll be
able to configure it will the much more simple and user-friendly Airport
Utility that comes installed in the latest versions of Mac OS X. See:

<http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/>

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From: nospam on
In article <jollyroger-38E8F1.14443007022010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> The problem with most non-Apple routers is they assume you know what you
> are doing when it comes to setting them up securely through their web
> administration interfaces.

it's not hard and some routers have setup wizards. non-apple routers
are *far* cheaper than apple routers, and once set up there's rarely
any reason to do anything, so it's entirely moot.

> If you've got the money to spend, you might
> consider getting an Airport Express instead.

it's very limiting for a main router with no gigabit and just one
ethernet port. it's nice if you want airtunes or portability though,
neither of which are a priority for the original poster.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <070220101319196038%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-38E8F1.14443007022010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > The problem with most non-Apple routers is they assume you know what you
> > are doing when it comes to setting them up securely through their web
> > administration interfaces.
>
> it's not hard

You're a funny one, Mr. nospam.

How hard it is is very subjective.

It's not hard for someone me, because I know how wifi works and what all
the acronyms and jargon means.

The OP, on the other hand, has stated she knows nothing about wifi.
Having talked with many people who don't know much about wifi, I can
tell you the OP may very well disagree with your assessment of the level
of difficulty. ; )

> and some routers have setup wizards.

Setup wizards also assume you know the jargon. And setup wizard often
result in low levels of security anyway.

> non-apple routers
> are *far* cheaper than apple routers

....at the expense of (a) being harder to set up and (b) not being
updated automatically through Mac OS X Software Update, to name just a
couple drawbacks. The term "You get what you pay for" certainly applies
here.

> and once set up there's rarely
> any reason to do anything, so it's entirely moot.

It has to be set up to begin with, so the point isn't moot at all.

> > If you've got the money to spend, you might
> > consider getting an Airport Express instead.
>
> it's very limiting for a main router with no gigabit and just one
> ethernet port. it's nice if you want airtunes or portability though,
> neither of which are a priority for the original poster.

Then again, the OP can decide if those limits are acceptable for her
particular situation, can't she?

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