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From: Mike Rosenberg on 7 Feb 2010 19:13 Kathy Morgan <kmorgan(a)spamcop.net> wrote: > Oh, that sounds even better. We'll be applying for a competitive grant > to help pay for all this, and the more effectively we can use the money > the better our chances of receiving the grant. Can you make any brand > recommendations? It needs to be easy, since I'm the IT person and I've > no experience with wifi, and accessible from a Mac. Belkin has a setup wizard that runs on Macs, so that's probably best for you. -- My latest dance performance <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_9pudbFisE> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: AES on 7 Feb 2010 20:11 In article <1jdjdqc.5x7uwi1fq1p00N%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>, kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote: > AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > > > Sorry, I didn't follow the earlier parts of this thread; but I hope that > > someone pointed out that once you have two Mini's installed, adding an > > Airport Base Station will be a very low-cost way to provide WiFi and > > thus Internet access to those patrons who may want to bring their own > > laptops to the library. > > I wasn't planning to do that, but it's a good suggestion. I was just > going to share the Internet connection between the two Mini's, but maybe > I should get an Airport Base Station. > > Looking at the Apple store, it looks like there are a couple of choices: > Airport Extreme Base or Airport Express. The Express is smaller (good > in our cramped space) and cheaper - what is the down side when compared > to the Extreme? You'll have to check the specs and/or wait for advice from others. I'm not sure whether the Express is actually a "base station" in the "transmit to others" sense; I think it only receives WiFi signals sent by another base station and hands that info off to stereo systems, printers, etc.. (???) The Extreme is an extremely good base station, but for your small application (with many of the users maybe being non-Mac) a third-party base station or a refurbished or eBay-ed earlier Apple model may do what you need at less cost.
From: Jolly Roger on 7 Feb 2010 23:07 In article <michelle-7DF0AE.20214307022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-275874.16530607022010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > however, the amusing thing is that the airport has a wizard, so that > > > must mean the airport is not secure. > > > > Nice try, but I did say "often" - not always. > > And you also said "low level of security", not "not secure". It's amazing > how many people respond to what they wish had been said instead of what > actually had been said. He's been trolling like this for a while now. And he's very close to being introduced to my kill file. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 7 Feb 2010 23:12 In article <070220101608266605%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-275874.16530607022010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > and some routers have setup wizards. > > > > > > > > Setup wizards also assume you know the jargon. > > > > > > actually they don't. > > > > Actually, they do. They make liberal use of various jargon and acronyms, > > and often don't explain what they mean in layman's terms sufficiently > > enough for lots of people to be able to properly answer the questions. > > not all. you're generalizing. And you weren't? : ) You're such a hypocrite. Tell you what: I am willing to bet that most router wireless setup wizards use jargon and don't sufficiently explain the meaning of settings to allow a novice to correctly configure them to be secure. Certainly most of the Netgear, DLink, and other routers *I've* seen fit into this category. Are you willing to bet otherwise? > > > in fact, netgear automatically determines what > > > type of isp connection you have, without any input from the user. it > > > works nearly all of the time. > > > > That's only step one of many others to follow on the way to securing a > > router. I would expect that one to be simple. > > it's an example. i'm not going to list every single step in the entire > wizard. in the case of isp type, the user need not concern themselves > with dhcp, pppoe, static ip, etc. the router figures it out (and it > works). ISP Type has nothing to do with security, so it doesn't matter that that particular step is easy. > if you're happy with airports, that's great, but there are other > options which should not be ruled out. Nobody here has said there aren't any other options. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 7 Feb 2010 23:13
In article <1jdjrvq.8sqqno1t80xcmN%kmorgan(a)spamcop.net>, kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <070220101350590060%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > > > worst case, find someone to set it up. it's a one time event and not a > > > justification for paying 2-3x as much for identical hardware, unless > > > the portability of an airport express or airtunes is needed. > > > > Better yet, get an Airport Express for $99 and set it up yourself > > easily, and then rest easy knowing you'll get automatic software updates > > whenever needed. > > Either one of these options sounds doable. Does the Airport Express > offer WPA? (I've been reading the thread about securing wireless > networks and it sounds like WPA is something I want.) I don't need > airtunes but having automatic updating would be nice. Michelle's post > outlining the differences between Airport Extreme and Airport Express > makes it sound like even the Express would be overkill for our purposes. I figured the Express would probably be enough for you. I highly recommend it. I have two of them, and they are easy to set up ,and reliable too. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |