From: Eeyore on


Don Bowey wrote:

> I believe we should not fall into the trap of thinking the few USA bashers
> here

I'm bashing current US foreign policy, not the country !


> represent their countries.

Very representative actually. Not one Brit ( or any European ) has taken the 'US
side' as presented by the right-wingers here.


> They really are insignificant in the scheme of things.

Ultimately so will the USA be. Europe's already a bigger market than the USA
with a pop'n of > 500m and will be growing larger still. Ukraine's pop'n alone
is nearly 50m. Turkey ( if they ever get in ) has 70m.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <fep4d2pnbc1sjgbihd3eh27itvb5jlmu0u(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3
> Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
>
> >Well, John, I think the "abuse" is retaliation against constant
> >America-bashing, and I don't really think this is grass-roots, do you?
>
> It IS a public face of a section of US society; a small section indeed,
> but the whole society is too big for anyone, even sociologists and
> anthropologists to view in toto.
>
> The nature of the abuse gives a terrible impression of the intelligence
> of the abusers.

Doesn't it just !

I'm amused that confronted with a challenge to an IQ test, 'Phat' responded with
tales of his virility ! It's a truly sad reflection on the state of the USA
today.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <ant4d2d1vilsko5kson7t7c4m63cruvlcu(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3
> Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
> >Didn't you ask us to get into the war?
>
> Churchill did, several times, and US refused. However, US accepted the
> Japanese 'invitation'.
>
> By the twisted logic of this thread, that proves that the US takes more
> notice of its enemies than its friends.

The USAans will simply respond that America 'let' Japan attack them at Pearl so
that they could have an excuse to join the Brits of course. It was all a big
conspiracy.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <1jf5d2522hmdlisb1fcava6n9d0alones2(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4
> Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes
>
> > Yes. We escorted hundreds of ships.
>
> When was that? And where? Before Pearl Harbour, the USN largely confined
> itself to US territorial waters in the Atlantic, and when it first
> ventured out, it suffered large losses from U-boat action. Captains
> didn't have any experience of how to avoid attacks and to forestall or
> retaliate.

The USN did in fact start escort duties in Sep 1941. Only as far as Iceland
though which the USA had garrisonned.
http://www.naval-history.net/WW2CampaignsAtlanticDev.htm

Graham

From: Frank Bemelman on
"Phat Bytestard" <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> schreef in bericht
news:ifk5d2t0fbnij7v00c9e8hlfnjk7vvr5t0(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:17:35 +0200, "Bill Sloman"
> <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> Gave us:
>
>>You've got loads of history, and don't know much about it, because what
>>you
>>lack is a decent education system. The one you've got churns out hicks.
>
> You call yourself intelligent?

Expressing doubts about that isn't very intelligent, for one thing.
Bill is extremely intelligent. He's perhaps too honest for his own
good, and you don't have to share all of his views, but intelligent
he is.

There are more intelligent folks here, but many of them only in
one or two areas. And some are plain dumb asses, outside their
area of expertise.


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Thanks, Frank.
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