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From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 4 Aug 2006 10:26 Fred Bloggs wrote: > > > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> Fred Bloggs wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>> >>>> Fred Bloggs wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fred Bloggs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Your confidence is misplaced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My field-hockey team's fitness training includes an exercise called >>>>>>> "hakkebillen" - literally "kick buttocks" - which involves running >>>>>>> slowly while bring up your heels behind you as high as you can >>>>>>> go. My >>>>>>> knees aren't flexible enough to let me kick my own bottom this >>>>>>> way, but >>>>>>> I can try, and fail, repeatedly without falling over. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You should take up Hindu squats- if you have knee problems then do >>>>>> them with your feet kept flat. Work up to 500 reps: >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_squat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just realized that article was written by a wimp. You can add >>>>> resistance to the Hindu squats with this accessory-any of those >>>>> Power Jumpers: >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/search//002-4776722-5136856?&node=3375301&keywords=power%20jumper >>>>> >>>>> >>>> If you want to totally destroy your knees. >>>> Ditto 'chicken walking'. >>>> >>> >>> That's bull- I do thousands of them, traditionally on toes, and the >>> knees never felt better. >> >> >> And some people smoke 50 a day all their lives and don't get cancer. >> You don't know what your situation will be until its too late. >> >> Dirk > > If your knee ligaments are weak then the Hindu squats will initially > cause some residual discomfort- but they will eventually strengthen. > Most idiopathic chronic joint pain is caused by disuse. So either you > injured your knees in martial arts combat, or you are a wimp. My knees are fine, but ask any sports physiologist about Hindu squats and they will look at you aghast. There are quite a few old exercises that have been abandoned because of their potential for causing major chronic injury. Any repetitive power exercise where the knee is bent through more than 90 degrees should be abandoned. Dirk
From: Fred Bloggs on 4 Aug 2006 10:38 Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > Fred Bloggs wrote: > >> >> >> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> >>> Fred Bloggs wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>>> >>>>> Fred Bloggs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fred Bloggs wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your confidence is misplaced. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My field-hockey team's fitness training includes an exercise called >>>>>>>> "hakkebillen" - literally "kick buttocks" - which involves running >>>>>>>> slowly while bring up your heels behind you as high as you can >>>>>>>> go. My >>>>>>>> knees aren't flexible enough to let me kick my own bottom this >>>>>>>> way, but >>>>>>>> I can try, and fail, repeatedly without falling over. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should take up Hindu squats- if you have knee problems then >>>>>>> do them with your feet kept flat. Work up to 500 reps: >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_squat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I just realized that article was written by a wimp. You can add >>>>>> resistance to the Hindu squats with this accessory-any of those >>>>>> Power Jumpers: >>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/search//002-4776722-5136856?&node=3375301&keywords=power%20jumper >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If you want to totally destroy your knees. >>>>> Ditto 'chicken walking'. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's bull- I do thousands of them, traditionally on toes, and the >>>> knees never felt better. >>> >>> >>> >>> And some people smoke 50 a day all their lives and don't get cancer. >>> You don't know what your situation will be until its too late. >>> >>> Dirk >> >> >> If your knee ligaments are weak then the Hindu squats will initially >> cause some residual discomfort- but they will eventually strengthen. >> Most idiopathic chronic joint pain is caused by disuse. So either you >> injured your knees in martial arts combat, or you are a wimp. > > > My knees are fine, but ask any sports physiologist about Hindu squats > and they will look at you aghast. There are quite a few old exercises > that have been abandoned because of their potential for causing major > chronic injury. Any repetitive power exercise where the knee is bent > through more than 90 degrees should be abandoned. > > Dirk That may be good advice for the average people who don't know what they're doing. When you do the fast bottom brake in the Hindu squat, it should be by means of rapid contraction of the gluteals and quadriceps, the legs should not go untensed so that your bodyweight momentum jerks on the knee ligaments. A large number of repetitions fatigues these muscles which entices the performer to get sloppy and that is how they injure themselves, since almost all of the injuries are reported as resulting from high rep rates. A sensible person simply stops when their fatigue prevents proper execution. So your sports physiologist advice is ultimately correct, but not for the reasons you think.
From: Phat Bytestard on 4 Aug 2006 11:01 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:18:56 +0100, John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us: >In message <1jf5d2522hmdlisb1fcava6n9d0alones2(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4 >Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes > >> Yes. We escorted hundreds of ships. > >When was that? And where? Before Pearl Harbour, the USN largely confined >itself to US territorial waters in the Atlantic, and when it first >ventured out, it suffered large losses from U-boat action. Captains >didn't have any experience of how to avoid attacks and to forestall or >retaliate. You have a poor memory. We escorted commercial shipping in the North Atlantic before Japan ever did anything at Pearl. We are what ended up keeping the U-boats at bay.
From: Phat Bytestard on 4 Aug 2006 11:04 On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:39:13 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: >Zambia is esp badly affected by AIDS. So is South Africa. AFAIK there were >*always* Moslems in Sudan anyway so it's not a case of being over-run ! There >are many Moslems in the more Northern African countries. It was a sovereign, non islamic nation, dumbass. Now, it is an islamic taken over nation, and there are millions of refugees to prove it. Those that didn't get away were raped and murdered.
From: Phat Bytestard on 4 Aug 2006 11:05
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:43:54 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us: > > >John Woodgate wrote: > >> In message <fep4d2pnbc1sjgbihd3eh27itvb5jlmu0u(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3 >> Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes >> >> >Well, John, I think the "abuse" is retaliation against constant >> >America-bashing, and I don't really think this is grass-roots, do you? >> >> It IS a public face of a section of US society; a small section indeed, >> but the whole society is too big for anyone, even sociologists and >> anthropologists to view in toto. >> >> The nature of the abuse gives a terrible impression of the intelligence >> of the abusers. > >Doesn't it just ! > >I'm amused that confronted with a challenge to an IQ test, 'Phat' responded with >tales of his virility ! It's a truly sad reflection on the state of the USA >today. > You're an idiot. Your spew into this thread proves that your aptitude for reality is quite skewed. |