From: Don Bowey on
On 8/5/06 12:44 AM, in article 44D44C5E.2CC16E25(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> John Woodgate wrote:
>
>> In message <4ji12eF83vuqU2(a)individual.net>, dated Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Dirk
>> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes
>>> And it will have to be one with enough teeth and muscle to fire on the
>>> Israelis as well as Hezbollah.
>>
>> Almost certainly it will never need to, in defence. Let us fervently
>> hope that it never fires on Israel in aggression.
>
> Likewise. I'd hope Israel isn't that daft.
>
> Graham
>

Israel is a country, you know, like a huge plot of dirt. Dirt doesn't know
a whole lot. Do you maybe mean its political body, military, general body
of citizens?

From: Ken Smith on
In article <44D39233.E2E7A513(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
[....]
>> We are now "after they were developed". They didn't put any money I know
>> of into the development pot.
note: They included meaning the british.
>
>F-35 JSF Involvement Across BAE Systems
>During the System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase, BAE Systems is
>involved in two particular areas- airframe and mission systems. A major part of
>the UK industrial contribution to JSF will come from BAE Systems aircraft
>manufacturing facilities in Warton and Samlesbury, as well as facilities at
>Rochester and Edinburgh. BAE Systems North America facilities in Nashua, NH, and
>Johnson City, NY, also support a significant amount of F-35 JSF involvement for
>BAE Systems.

"Will come from" means in the future. A little context on my position may
help: A little over a year ago, a well placed airforce person complained
in my presents[1] using words to the effect that it was supposed to be a
effort but the airforce was covering almost all of it.

[1] It was intended for the ears of someone else.

>
>The aft fuselage and empennage (tails and fins) for each F-35 JSF are being
>designed, engineered and built at the BAE Systems Samlesbury site, using the
>latest in advanced design and manufacturing technology.

Score one for the other side of the argument, almost. Was this technology
developed because of the spending on the joint fighter or was it something
developed for anotehr purpose? The basic argument here is about driving
the advances not using them.


>The aft-fuselage and empennage will be shipped to Lockheed Martins Fort Worth
>plant in the summer of 2005, where they will be joined with the wing and forward
>fuselage from Lockheed Martin and the centre fuselage from Northrop Grumman.
>Assembly of the initial F-35A conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant is
>expected to be completed at the end of the year. The first flight of the CTOL
>aircraft is scheduled for mid-2006.

Since this is their own site. I find it odd that this says "will be" not
was.

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From: Eeyore on


Don Bowey wrote:

> Also, you should not put a space at the end of a sentence ahead of the
> punctuation.

You don't like this ? Tough ! I do it for readability.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Don Bowey wrote:

> On 8/5/06 12:44 AM, in article 44D44C5E.2CC16E25(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > John Woodgate wrote:
> >
> >> In message <4ji12eF83vuqU2(a)individual.net>, dated Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Dirk
> >> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes
> >>> And it will have to be one with enough teeth and muscle to fire on the
> >>> Israelis as well as Hezbollah.
> >>
> >> Almost certainly it will never need to, in defence. Let us fervently
> >> hope that it never fires on Israel in aggression.
> >
> > Likewise. I'd hope Israel isn't that daft.
> >
> > Graham
>
> Israel is a country, you know, like a huge plot of dirt. Dirt doesn't know
> a whole lot. Do you maybe mean its political body, military, general body
> of citizens?

Have you got nothing better to quibble about ? The meaning is perfecty clear.

Graham


From: Jim Thompson on
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:21:36 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 8/4/06 9:25 PM, in article 44D41DA5.96A1D12D(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>> On 4 Aug 2006 16:25:48 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> America itself is only fond of democracy as long as it produces
>>>> governments that America finds sympathetic.
>>>
>>> Agreed. They are called "democracies."
>>
>> America has had *no trouble at all* supporting undemocratic countries. That's
>> another
>> reason you're seen as 2 faced.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
>Let's see now.... The US isn't liked because "we" would like all governments
>to be democratic, and the US isn't liked because "we" also give support to
>non-democratic governments.
>
>It seems to me you are biased in favor of showing the US wrong no matter
>what "we" do.
>
>You're just an argumentative trouble maker.
>

Perfect description of Eeyore.

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