From: John Fields on
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:20:24 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
>news:l3i7d2t6hnppubng26c12m121klnu976pd(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:42:11 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
>> <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>Sounds fair enough. Actually, I never thought of the USA as a
>>>nation of fools, at least not until that nation voted for
>>>Bush for the *2ND* time. I mean, his first election can be
>>>called an honest mistake, but how can a nation continue to
>>>follow such an insane leader with such dangerous ideas? That
>>>is *very* hard to understand.
>>
>> ---
>> You have to understand, Frank, that we live in a country where what
>> we do actually _matters_, so I understand why you might be chagrined
>> by the fact that Bush's actions are totally different from what you
>> might consider to be in your best interests.
>>
>> As far as the "Nation of Fools" thing goes, even you must be aware
>> that the entire populace didn't vote for Bush. As a matter of fact,
>> only a miniscule percentage of it did, the electors who cast their
>> vote for him.
>>
>> http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2004/allocation.html
>
>No, but about half the polulace voted so that the electors had a
>good chance keeping him in the saddle. In my book, that is the same.

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Half a nation of fools is the same as a nation of fools?
---

>> A lousy system if ever I saw one, and I see no reason why
>> presidential (in fact, _all_) elections couldn't be carried out
>> on-line where the result would truly be popular.
>
>Coulda woulda shoulda? ;)

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Cite why they couldn't.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <1154801057.855289.34900(a)i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, dated
> Sat, 5 Aug 2006, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org writes
> >Allende's government in Chile was - correctly - called a democracy, and
> >you didn't find it sympathetic.
>
> It wasn't very, and it was stupid. Nationalising US companies without
> compensation was not a brilliant move, was it?

Look at how the US behaved when Britain and France ( oh *and* Israel ! ) took
Egypt to task over the nationalisation of the Suez Canal though !

Who were the 'weenies' then ?

Graham

From: John Fields on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:32:07 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:38:45 -0500, John Fields
><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
>
>>As far as the "Nation of Fools" thing goes, even you must be aware
>>that the entire populace didn't vote for Bush. As a matter of fact,
>>only a miniscule percentage of it did, the electors who cast their
>>vote for him.
>>
>>http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2004/allocation.html
>>
>>A lousy system if ever I saw one, and I see no reason why
>>presidential (in fact, _all_) elections couldn't be carried out
>>on-line where the result would truly be popular.
>
>Like the way Tony Blair was elected?
>
>John

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I don't know. Got a link or an example?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:12:59 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >More for you....
> >
> >BAE Systems - A Key Partner on the F-35 JSF Program............................
> >
> >BAE Systems is a major UK industrial participant, investing $72M upfront in the
> >Concept Development Phase (CDP) and $65M in UK JSF facilities during SDD [ System
> >Development and Demonstration Phase ]
> >
> >http://www.baesystems.com/facts/programmes/airsystems/jsf.htm
> >
> >Graham
>
> BAE has fairly extensive operations in the US, too. We work with one
> group that's doing B-52 radar upgrades; they were Sanders Associates
> before being acquired by BAE. They tell me that, because of security
> rules, they can tell me stuff they aren't allowed to communicate to
> the home office in Europe.

How widely known is it that the largest overseas investor in the USA is Britain btw ?


> The B-52's are scheduled to be retired in 2040, at which time they'll
> be 80 years old.

Astonishing longevity. It's actually the design that's that old - nothing made back then
is still in line service though. Mainly the H and maybe some G models flying now IIRC.
C130s been around a while too and not much has come along to challenge it although
Airbus do have an A400M they'd like to develop.

Graham

From: Phat Bytestard on
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:13:37 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>I guess having a simple view of the world is quite cosy for those who aren't
>comfortable with exercising their brain as opposed to brawn.


You're an idiot if you think that is what has happened.