From: Eeyore on 6 Aug 2006 14:15 John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:43:39 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >John Woodgate wrote: > > > >> In message <gg3cd21bs2725tmd1lfr9p38t2t2932jm6(a)4ax.com>, dated Sun, 6 > >> Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> > >> writes > >> >And that consists of deciding things and doing things, not just sitting > >> >on the sidelines and bitching. > >> > >> Unfortunately, the EU is an institution dedicated to not deciding and > >> not acting, and entirely devoted to sitting on the sidelines and > >> bitching. > > > >It seems to able to decide and act on some daft things though. > > > >You've missed much of the past fun we've had recently with RoHS and WEEE. > > > Yeah. My company has ignored the RoHS thing entirely, except that we > are concerned about tin whiskers on the leads of compliant parts. I can confidently assure you that there's plenty of electronics stuff currently being sold here with lead in it. Graham
From: Eeyore on 6 Aug 2006 14:17 John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:50:18 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > > > >> Eeyore wrote: > >> > > >> > John Fields wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 11:03:25 +0200, "Frank Bemelman" > >> > > <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht > >> > > > >> > > >> --- > >> > > >> Do you want us to lose? > >> > > > > >> > > >No, just want the US to realize what they have caused by going in > >> > > >on their own, neglecting the UN's advice to wait a tiny bit longer. > >> > > > >> > > --- > >> > > I we'd taken the UN's advice we'd _still_ be playing their waiting > >> > > game. > >> > > >> > Would there be anything wrong with that ? > >> > > >> > Graham > >> > >> Would there be anything RIGHT with that? > > > >Plenty. > > > >Before the recent war there was far wider employment and less crime. The water, > >electricity, phones and other infrastructure worked and hadn't been blown up. > >People weren't suffering mental illness caused by the insurrection. The country > >hadn't divided on religious lines. Etc. > > > >Graham > > About 100,000 kids were dying each year as crooks inside the UN were > making deals with S for oil-for-food "vouchers"... S and pals were > getting the money, not sick and starving childern. And the Kurdish > (north) and Shiite (south) zones were nearly autonomous, protected > no-fly zones. Hardly Shangrila. I don't think war was the best way to fix the oil-for-food issue. > The US partly attacked Saddam and partly attacked the UN. Interesting analysis. Graham
From: Eeyore on 6 Aug 2006 14:22 John Fields wrote: > Well, I think it's safe to say that a nice Stilton could hold its > own when confronted by a Roquefort, especially when the heat's on. I hate to disappoint you but I'd take the Roquefort myself. Graham
From: krw on 6 Aug 2006 14:25 In article <j1bcd21deckmh9gjdfb5j5gilu2sedfqcg(a)4ax.com>, phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org says... > On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 11:46:24 -0400, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> Gave us: > > >In article <8p5bd2hu57g01kfv5q619vs6l4sk5u1h9g(a)4ax.com>, > >phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org says... > >> On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 00:52:28 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken > >> Smith) Gave us: > >> > >> >In article <urt9d2pllhp8bavntetiobg9932t8vi7e8(a)4ax.com>, > >> >Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> wrote: > >> >>On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:15:12 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken > >> >>Smith) Gave us: > >> >> > >> >>>BTW: Even if lockheedmartin had paid for the development, they would have > >> >>>done so not out of the goodness of their hearts but because they expected > >> >>>to get more than that much money in return. It would still ultimately > >> >>>have been tax dollars that got used. I think this argument would be too > >> >>>complicated for you to follow so I am glad I don't have to use it. > >> >> > >> >> Just because a company's profit came from tax dollars for goods > >> >>which they have sold, does NOT make those 100% earned dollars "tax > >> >>dollars" when they use it for a new project. > >> > > >> >As I thought I made clear: The money was invested by Lockheed expecting > >> >to recover it when the contract was let. ie: the money from taxes ends up > >> >covering the cost after the fact. If the government was not willing to > >> >cover the costs, nobody in business would have sunk that much money into > >> >creating the "proof of concept" machines. > >> > > >> > >> You obviously do not know much about aircraft design routines. > >> > >> The X-36 is a prime example of just how wrong you are. > >> > >F20 Tigershark. > > Yes. The fighter that was never bought. There was *no* government funding in its development though. It would have been a nice light fighter for the second and third world; not flashy enough for the USAF. ;-) -- Keith
From: Michael A. Terrell on 6 Aug 2006 14:26
John Woodgate wrote: > > In message <b89cd29qdnn4g9apu4kip31l1jskvp4b9c(a)4ax.com>, dated Sun, 6 > Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes > > > You're an idiot. > > Do you have to keep repeating that? It doesn't enhance your image. > > > > I suggest you look back over the last thirty years worth of Scientific > >American magazine issues. Israel is way up on the list of high > >technology providers in medicine, and space, as well as military > >defense technologies. > > Quite. I once worked with a highly-intelligent person from Biafra in > Nigeria, at the time when the Biafrans were subject to a genocide > attempt. Charlie explained to me, 'Biafrans are Africa's answer to Jews; > hard-working, mostly very sociable, and thus successful. No wonder the > others hate us.'. At least some of the Nigerians are very busy spammers and scammers. I get 20 to 50 e-mails wanting me to move lots of money (of which I'm promised a big cut), if only I'll give them direct access to my bank accounts, and my SS number. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |