From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:21:43 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:25:09 +0100, Eeyore
> >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> John Larkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4 Aug 2006 16:25:48 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> America itself is only fond of democracy as long as it produces
> >>>>> governments that America finds sympathetic.
> >>>> Agreed. They are called "democracies."
> >>> America has had *no trouble at all* supporting undemocratic countries. That's another
> >>> reason you're seen as 2 faced.
> >>>
> >>> Graham
> >>
> >> The Cold War caused some unsavory distortions. It's over. Hell, the
> >> Hundred Years War is over, too.
> >
> >But now we have the neverending 'war on terror' where all those self
> >serving abuses can be taken out, dusted off, and set on their feet
> >again. Only the excuses change. Any other reason why 'we' are sucking up
> >to a nuclear armed Islamic military dictator?
>
> ---
> To whom are you referring?

Gen. Pervez Musharraf of course. GWB couldn't remember his name when interviwed during the
run-up to his firsr period of Kingdom. You remember ? He said " General...ummm..
General.....errrrr.. " At least he got the General bit right ! Pakistan of course - that
well-known beacon of democracy and a critical ally to the USA. The USA has supported a number
of Generals running Governments in recent times and you wonder why we laugh ourselves hollow
when you talk about preaching 'democracy' ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musharraf

Pervez Musharraf ( born August 11, 1943 in Delhi, British India) is currently the President
of Pakistan and the Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistani military. He took power on October
12, 1999 after a coup d'tat and assumed the title of President of Pakistan on June 20, 2001.

An interesting 'democracy' that one.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Ken Smith wrote:

> In article <44D754EF.BBE58B05(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
> [... me ...]
> >> The US DOD stands for Department Of Defence so *everything* they do is
> >> defence and paid for by the "defence budget".
> >
> >That's a curious way of thinking of it too.
>
> That is more or less the normal way of speaking of military spending in
> the US.

Whatever happened to the War Department ? It had a more honest name at least.

Graham

From: Jim Yanik on
John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:uwxNQYvoP41EFwlp(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk:

> In message <92ued29drs5ivb9483hvqsveon0m14h012(a)4ax.com>, dated Mon, 7
> Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes
>
>>It isn't his power sources in question, it is his intentions with the
>>spent fuel rods,
>
> The US is objecting to enrichment of uranium beyond the 5% or so
> required for peaceful purposes. If there are plans to extract Pu239 from
> fuel rods, there won't BE any spent fuel rods for about 5 years.

It would be incredibly easy for Iran to establish a second,secret
enrichment facility to produce HEU. There's already evidence of such a
facility sited -under a lake- for protection against current conventional
deep-penetrator bombs like GBU-28. It would take a nuclear weapon to dig it
out.Now if they were only producing low-enriched reactor fuel,there would
be no need for that.ISTR that IAEA inspectors also found traces of HEU on
Iranian equipment.

Besides,spent fuel rods would be fine for dirty bombs,a nice terror
weapon,and Iran is deeply involved in terror ops,they are the number ONE
terror source today.Iran would be happy to "dust" Israel and make it
uninhabitable for the Jews.(note two Japanese cities were nuked >60 yrs
ago,and now are bustling cities.)

and Iran is not building long range IRBMs just for use in the
MiddleEast;they will have range to hit all of Europe and UK. They -will-
have WMD warheads.They still believe much of Europe is Islamic lands to be
retaken.It's not just rhetoric,they mean it.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
From: Eeyore on


Jim Thompson wrote:

> Of course, when I refer to "leftist weenies", I'm not name-calling ;-)

Do I detect a degree of moderation ?

I do realise your tongue spends a lot of time in intimate contact with one or
other of your cheeks of course.

Graham

From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
Eeyore wrote:
>
> John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:21:43 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:25:09 +0100, Eeyore
>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 Aug 2006 16:25:48 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> America itself is only fond of democracy as long as it produces
>>>>>>> governments that America finds sympathetic.
>>>>>> Agreed. They are called "democracies."
>>>>> America has had *no trouble at all* supporting undemocratic countries. That's another
>>>>> reason you're seen as 2 faced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham
>>>> The Cold War caused some unsavory distortions. It's over. Hell, the
>>>> Hundred Years War is over, too.
>>> But now we have the neverending 'war on terror' where all those self
>>> serving abuses can be taken out, dusted off, and set on their feet
>>> again. Only the excuses change. Any other reason why 'we' are sucking up
>>> to a nuclear armed Islamic military dictator?
>> ---
>> To whom are you referring?
>
> Gen. Pervez Musharraf of course. GWB couldn't remember his name when interviwed during the
> run-up to his firsr period of Kingdom. You remember ? He said " General...ummm..
> General.....errrrr.. " At least he got the General bit right ! Pakistan of course - that
> well-known beacon of democracy and a critical ally to the USA. The USA has supported a number
> of Generals running Governments in recent times and you wonder why we laugh ourselves hollow
> when you talk about preaching 'democracy' ???
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musharraf
>
> Pervez Musharraf ( born August 11, 1943 in Delhi, British India) is currently the President
> of Pakistan and the Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistani military. He took power on October
> 12, 1999 after a coup d'tat and assumed the title of President of Pakistan on June 20, 2001.
>
> An interesting 'democracy' that one.
>
> Graham
>
And let's not forget Bush's pals in Uzbekistan where they boil political
prisoners alive. Another stalwart supporter of the US version of 'freedom'.

Dirk