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From: YD on 7 Aug 2006 18:35 On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:05:27 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Eeyore wrote: >> >> Phat Bytestard wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:29:14 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" >> > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> Gave us: >> > >> > > Yes, it does. If you're in the paper products or produce business. >> > >It would be damn hard to make money selling apples and other fruit >> > >without growing them on trees. It would also be very hard to build >> > >decent homes without lumber, which grows on trees, as well. >> > >> > Yep... even the media that the "money" got printed on came from >> > trees. >> >> Rag has been traditionally used actually ! You can't get much right can you ? >> >> Graham > > > YOU don't know much about paper. Yes, some paper does use other >fibers, and it is sometimes listed as RAG content. Some experiment >paper used other sources of fiber, such as common weeds, so you might >even have RAGweed paper. I grew up around the paper industry. High >quality writing paper and cardboard (Corrugated) box manufacturing were >some of the larger industries in the Middletown Ohio area. Harding >Jones, Crystal Tissue, Inland Container, Packaging Corporation of >America, Akers Packaging, Stone Container Corporation, Jefferson >Smurfit, and a number of smaller paper related paper manufacturing >companies. We also had the world headquarters of what is now AK steel, a >Wadsworth Electric plant that was bought out by Square "D", and a lot of >large machine shops that made parts for paper processing equipment. The >paper ranged from basic unbleached wood pulp, to the thinnest grades of >tissue wrapping paper, and one company specialized in fine watermarked >papers, including custom manufactured paper for birth certificates, and >property titles. > > As far as paper for money, some of it has synthetic fibers added to >make them last longer, and to be harder to tear. > > I installed paging systems in several paper mills, and knew the >owners or managers of several more. My dad worked 25 years in a >corrugated box plant, and spent most of his time working in management >so I had piles of trade journals to read about the various processes >used to make different papers, on different machines. > > One of my uncles ran a "Beater" which was a huge machine used to >grind up railroad carloads of magazines and junk mail to turn it back >into pulp that was used to make egg cartons and formed paper shipping >materials. He used to laugh about whole train car loads of Playboy and >Penthouse being ground up to remove the staples, and some of the guys >whining because there was no access between the time the train cars >arrived, and the paper was shredded. > > > Any more lies about paper you'd like to tell? http://www.moneyfactory.gov/document.cfm/18/106 Scroll down about 1/3 and read: "Currency paper is composed of 25% linen and 75% cotton. Red and blue synthetic fibers of various lengths are distributed evenly throughout the paper. Prior to World War I the fibers were made of silk." Seems the paper base has been replaced by a plastic base, or will be shortly. I'm not chasing it. - YD. -- Remove HAT if replying by mail.
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 7 Aug 2006 18:29 On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:05:38 -0700, John Larkin wrote: > On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:25:09 +0100, Eeyore >>John Larkin wrote: >>> On 4 Aug 2006 16:25:48 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>> >>> >America itself is only fond of democracy as long as it produces >>> >governments that America finds sympathetic. >>> >>> Agreed. They are called "democracies." >> >>America has had *no trouble at all* supporting undemocratic countries. That's another >>reason you're seen as 2 faced. >> >>Graham > > The Cold War caused some unsavory distortions. It's over. Hell, the > Hundred Years War is over, too. > Of course they're over. We're in WWIII now. Didn't you get the memo? ;-) Cheers! Rich
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 7 Aug 2006 18:31 On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:53:42 -0500, John Fields wrote: > On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:00:53 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >>I'm not suggesting we descend on tyrannies - just the opposite. That we >>leave them alone and do not support them in *any* way. > > Short of a blockade, then, you'd let the cancer grow? --- Of course. For one thing "Freedom" means let people do whatever in the world they want to do. For another, you might have noticed, cancer is somewhat self-limiting. Cheers! Rich
From: John Fields on 7 Aug 2006 18:41 On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:20:16 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >What I think is that people who have no principles also have no >ability to recognize principles in others. > >John --- Or, perhaps, to recognize those principles as threats. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 7 Aug 2006 18:46
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:21:43 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:25:09 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>> >>>> On 4 Aug 2006 16:25:48 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>>> >>>>> America itself is only fond of democracy as long as it produces >>>>> governments that America finds sympathetic. >>>> Agreed. They are called "democracies." >>> America has had *no trouble at all* supporting undemocratic countries. That's another >>> reason you're seen as 2 faced. >>> >>> Graham >> >> The Cold War caused some unsavory distortions. It's over. Hell, the >> Hundred Years War is over, too. > >But now we have the neverending 'war on terror' where all those self >serving abuses can be taken out, dusted off, and set on their feet >again. Only the excuses change. Any other reason why 'we' are sucking up >to a nuclear armed Islamic military dictator? --- To whom are you referring? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |