From: John Woodgate on
In message <44D84FC3.CEC75BF5(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 8 Aug
2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>John Woodgate wrote:
>
>> In message <4jqtm0F9b7r6U1(a)individual.net>, dated Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Dirk
>> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes
>> >Why not take Bin Laden at his word, and read *why* he attacked the US?
>> Citation?
>
>And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the
>intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate
>American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance
>is terrorism and intolerance.
>http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F
>61F.htm
>
>More ?

Who can stop you?
>
>Graham
>
>this should frankly be compulsory reading for Americans

If only to confirm that they are opposed by a mad man. It's ludicrous to
claim that US policy is to kill innocents.

Some Americans, it is true, have less compunction than many of us would
like about 'collateral damage', but they are not unique in this respect,
nor is it *because* they are Americans; consider UK bombing of German
towns in WWII.
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John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: John Woodgate on
In message <44D8505F.BE0DFA9B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 8 Aug
2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes

>The first really useful general purpose computer was designed at the
>University of Manchester UK and had zero or minimal military input.

General purpose, yes. But the very useful dedicated computers designed
and built for Bletchley Park were funded by the UK government, of
course.
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John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <44D84E4F.7F57F77E(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 8 Aug
> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>
> >We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our
> >nation. So shall we lay waste to yours. "
>
> Which nation is this? ObL is a Saudi; I haven't noticed the US laying
> waste to Saudi recently. In fact, US is criticized (not groundlessly)
> for propping up the feudal/sacerdotal regime there. A regime that first
> embraced and then rejected ObL, I believe. A regime that he hates, and
> is actually why he hates USA.

Moslems aren't nationalistic in the same way we are. They tend to consider an
attack on one nation an attack on all, like NATO does.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


xray wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:34:39 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >John Woodgate wrote:
> >
> >> In message <dgagd2dnnd6egl07phm8qh0aog2rb09nn5(a)4ax.com>, dated Mon, 7
> >> Aug 2006, xray <notreally(a)hotmail.invalid> writes
> >>
> >> >At that time, I think the hate toward the US was mainly because of how
> >> >our lifestyle was leading the rest of the world (including the Middle
> >> >East) astray because it was enticing, not so much because of any
> >> >political or military actions the US had made.
> >>
> >> It's a big factor. The priests see their lifestyle threatened, and I
> >> don't mean only Muslims.
> >
> >Sorry, John but I don't see that the argument that the US was attacked because
> >of jealousy over the richness of the western lifestyle holds any water at all.
>
> It's not jealousy. Pretty much exactly the opposite. Don't let this
> horrible lifestyle spread.

I'm no fan of extremist Islamism or so-called 'Sharia Law' but don't for a second
think they're all the same.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


John Woodgate wrote:

> In message <44D8505F.BE0DFA9B(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 8 Aug
> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>
> >The first really useful general purpose computer was designed at the
> >University of Manchester UK and had zero or minimal military input.
>
> General purpose, yes. But the very useful dedicated computers designed
> and built for Bletchley Park were funded by the UK government, of
> course.

Not exactly the kind of computer you could use for commercial work ( as was the
point about having one on the desktop ) and indeed of very different technology.
It's all interesting stuff though.

Graham