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From: Tony Winston on 22 Oct 2006 09:55 Jon wrote: > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > The periods have a purpose: They indicate that the letters should be > > pronounced one at a time. Without them the abbreviation reads as "osix". > > Which with all due respect is not relevant at all in this case, because > as a registered trade mark it is to be regarded as a proper name. That > means we write it _and_ pronounce it the way the owner of the name wants > us to, no matter what we might think of the spelling privately. If it > were a generic term, I would agree with you -- but it isn't. It is > written "Mac OS X", possibly with some addition like version name or > number, but definitely no periods. If we were in a business environment, I would agree with you, but this is an unmoderated froum in a free society, where even slang is tolerated. Fortunately I'm living in somewhat of a democracy -- not a dictatorship like China ? and therefore we may spell and pronounce as we choose. It's one of the basic freedoms of our free society that 100,000 of my countrymen died to protect in the first and second world wars. (Or should I perhaps get an Apple logo shaved into the back of my head to show that I'm a corporate drone, as I once saw a brainwashed, young lackey with a Nike logo shaved into the back of his head? ) I don't see why you or any corporation should have the right to order me to spell and/or pronounce particular words in particular ways in this unmoderated forum in my free country. As I wrote before, I still generally choose to abide by the rules of punctuation I was taught in school and that works fine for me. I don't try to correct others' continual misuse of the language here and I ask that you give me the same respect, especially because it's off-topic. This is not a forum for discussion of the rules of English. If you're so interested in the topic I suggest you join an editing forum. Tony
From: Dave Balderstone on 22 Oct 2006 09:56 In article <453B731F.676BBC0A(a)address.com>, Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > Dave Balderstone wrote: > > > > In article <4535AED2.E313BF24(a)address.com>, Tony Winston > > <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > > nospam wrote: > > > > > > > > Tony Winston wrote: > > > > > > > > > So the 9.22 on my computer is my only remaining working copy and I > > > > > don't > > > > > want to mess with it until I've mastered X. > > > > > > > > In that situation I think first I would burn a cd with the system folder > > > > and as much other stuff as I could fit on it (or a DVD if it has a DVD > > > > burner), then try booting from it to make sure I copied everything > > > > right. > > > > > > > > Not answering your question here, but I think it might be a good idea. > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > Thanks, Andy. > > > > > > I've tried repeatedly to do that, but I can't burn anything on my DVDs ? > > > even in X. The options are grayed. I checked the Help section but it was > > > of no help. > > > > > > I have a package of Apple 4x blank DVD-Rs. I tried two of them with the > > > same lack of results. > > > > Do you have a DVD burner in the Mac? Or is it limited to burning CDs > > and read-only for DVDs? > > > > If you run System Profiler (in the Utilities folder) it will tell you. > > I have a program called, "Disk Burner" which comes as part of O.S. 10, > but I don't know why it won't work. I thought that it would allow me to > copy data onto my DVD'Rs, but it's not doing anything. > > Also, when I bought my used Mac, the salesman included a c.d. containing > a program called "Patchburn II" so that when I got O.S. 10 I could burn c.d.s. > > The documentation on the c.d. says: > > "This program generates and installs drivers for CD/DVD-burners that are > available on Mac OS X systems. This allows many, otherwise unsupported > burners to be used directly with Mac OS X, iTunes and Disk Burner." > > Is it safe to install that Patchburn II onto my O.S. 10 drive? I'm using > O.S. 10.47 and 10.48, but Patchburn is for 10.43. You didn't answer my question.
From: Dave Balderstone on 22 Oct 2006 10:18 In article <453B78CF.666AE310(a)address.com>, Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > Jon wrote: > > > > Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > > The periods have a purpose: They indicate that the letters should be > > > pronounced one at a time. Without them the abbreviation reads as "osix". > > > > Which with all due respect is not relevant at all in this case, because > > as a registered trade mark it is to be regarded as a proper name. That > > means we write it _and_ pronounce it the way the owner of the name wants > > us to, no matter what we might think of the spelling privately. If it > > were a generic term, I would agree with you -- but it isn't. It is > > written "Mac OS X", possibly with some addition like version name or > > number, but definitely no periods. > > If we were in a business environment, I would agree with you, but this > is an unmoderated froum in a free society, where even slang is tolerated. > > Fortunately I'm living in somewhat of a democracy -- not a dictatorship > like China ? and therefore we may spell and pronounce as we choose. It's > one of the basic freedoms of our free society that 100,000 of my > countrymen died to protect in the first and second world wars. > > (Or should I perhaps get an Apple logo shaved into the back of my head > to show that I'm a corporate drone, as I once saw a brainwashed, young > lackey with a Nike logo shaved into the back of his head? ) > > I don't see why you or any corporation should have the right to order > me to spell and/or pronounce particular words in particular ways in this > unmoderated forum in my free country. > > As I wrote before, I still generally choose to abide by the rules of > punctuation I was taught in school and that works fine for me. > > I don't try to correct others' continual misuse of the language here and > I ask that you give me the same respect, especially because it's > off-topic. > > This is not a forum for discussion of the rules of English. If you're so > interested in the topic I suggest you join an editing forum. Good grief... Tony, you're filling a badly needed gap.
From: Jon on 22 Oct 2006 10:20 Tony Winston <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > This is not a forum for discussion of the rules of English. If you're so > interested in the topic I suggest you join an editing forum. That is corrrect, but it is a forum where we discuss Apple and things related to it, such as its products. Those products have proper names, and those names are chosen by Apple, not by us. If we want to refer to things or people that have proper names, we should use those names properly. Between people that is common courtesy, and when referring to things it ensures that we are at least referring to the same thing, as well as respecting the owner of the name. Therefore, "Mac OS X" it is. And it is also e.o.d., as far as I am concerned. -- /Jon For contact info, run the following in Terminal: Mail: echo 36199371860304980107073482417748002696458P|dc Skype: echo 139576319600233690471689738P|dc
From: Tony Winston on 22 Oct 2006 10:26
Dave Balderstone wrote: > > In article <453B731F.676BBC0A(a)address.com>, Tony Winston > <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > Dave Balderstone wrote: > > > > > > In article <4535AED2.E313BF24(a)address.com>, Tony Winston > > > <unreal(a)address.com> wrote: > > > > > > > nospam wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tony Winston wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So the 9.22 on my computer is my only remaining working copy and I > > > > > > don't > > > > > > want to mess with it until I've mastered X. > > > > > > > > > > In that situation I think first I would burn a cd with the system folder > > > > > and as much other stuff as I could fit on it (or a DVD if it has a DVD > > > > > burner), then try booting from it to make sure I copied everything > > > > > right. > > > > > > > > > > Not answering your question here, but I think it might be a good idea. > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > Thanks, Andy. > > > > > > > > I've tried repeatedly to do that, but I can't burn anything on my DVDs ? > > > > even in X. The options are grayed. I checked the Help section but it was > > > > of no help. > > > > > > > > I have a package of Apple 4x blank DVD-Rs. I tried two of them with the > > > > same lack of results. > > > > > > Do you have a DVD burner in the Mac? Or is it limited to burning CDs > > > and read-only for DVDs? > > > > > > If you run System Profiler (in the Utilities folder) it will tell you. > > > > I have a program called, "Disk Burner" which comes as part of O.S. 10, > > but I don't know why it won't work. I thought that it would allow me to > > copy data onto my DVD'Rs, but it's not doing anything. > > > > Also, when I bought my used Mac, the salesman included a c.d. containing > > a program called "Patchburn II" so that when I got O.S. 10 I could burn c.d.s. > > > > The documentation on the c.d. says: > > > > "This program generates and installs drivers for CD/DVD-burners that are > > available on Mac OS X systems. This allows many, otherwise unsupported > > burners to be used directly with Mac OS X, iTunes and Disk Burner." > > > > Is it safe to install that Patchburn II onto my O.S. 10 drive? I'm using > > O.S. 10.47 and 10.48, but Patchburn is for 10.43. > > You didn't answer my question. I thought I DID answer the question. Isn't Disk Burner a DVD burner? I also have an old version of Toast. I don't know if Patchburn II would update that old version of Toast. (The salesman at the Mac store told me it would, but I want to make sure before I install Patchburn.) Tony |