From: T i m on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 12:37:21 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com>
wrote:


>>
>> I ask because Dad has BTBB and has no use for the Hotspot thing so if
>> there is an 'allowance' going unused it seems a shame (even if it
>> continues to be unused) and it would be nice to know how-to etc?
>
>I've no idea, sorry. With the iPhone it gets linked to your phone number.

Ah, micro browsing. ;-)

> I
>imagine it's similar for the BTBB deal but I've no way of knowing.

Ok ta.

T i m

From: Ian Piper on
On 2010-05-10 11:04:10 +0100, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> said:

> On O2 it's going to be like this:
>
> 2UKP gets you one day's data, up to 500MB.
>
> 30 days (up to 1GB) is 10UKP
> 30 days (up to 3GB) is 15UKP
>
> The 30 day plans are rolling contracts, but you can cancel on the iPad
> itself a day before it's due to renew.
>
> <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/10/o2_vodafone_ipad_mobile_
> broadband_deals/>
>
>
> These strike me as being quite good. 15quid for 3GB over a month would suit
> me down to the ground on holiday.
>
> Jim


Ohh... totally confused. I have ordered my iPad now, but I am not clear
how these connectivity deals work at all. With my MBP I can connect
using Wi-Fi to BTOpenzone anywhere I can find a hot-spot, and this is
free because of my BT broadband account. So presumably the same will be
true with the iPad. The 3G thing, though, is what is confusing me. If I
read these deals correctly I can buy, say, 1GB of data transfer in a
month for �10 - obviously only where there is a 3G connection. Is that
right? If I am somewhere with a BTOpenzone Wi-Fi hotspot how do I make
sure that I'm using that for free rather than the metered 3G
connection? Is it simply a question of turning off the 3G connection?

Frankly I'm not sure what I don't understand, but I don't want to
repeat the screwing I got over my iPhone. I bought one at a time when
the cheapest option O2 would offer me still had me paying �35 per month
and then throwing away around 90 minutes of talk and 600 texts every
month, because I just didn't use it that much. I am now using my old
Orange SIM in the iPhone on a tariff where I only pay for the calls I
make and am back to about �1.50 per month. So what is the sage advice
from people who actually know about this stuff, for dullards like me,
who want the most cost-effective and getting-screwed-proof way to get
internettage on the iPad?

And in a moment I'll be posting my other dumb question, about reading
my library of PDF technical books.


Ian.
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:30:28 +0100, Ian Piper <ianpiper(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>Ohh... totally confused. I have ordered my iPad now, but I am not clear
>how these connectivity deals work at all. With my MBP I can connect
>using Wi-Fi to BTOpenzone anywhere I can find a hot-spot, and this is
>free because of my BT broadband account. So presumably the same will be
>true with the iPad. The 3G thing, though, is what is confusing me. If I
>read these deals correctly I can buy, say, 1GB of data transfer in a
>month for �10 - obviously only where there is a 3G connection. Is that
>right?

Nearly - I'm not certain but I expect GSM and EDGE connections are
also usable for mobile data. They'll all count towards your 1Gig.

> If I am somewhere with a BTOpenzone Wi-Fi hotspot how do I make
>sure that I'm using that for free rather than the metered 3G
>connection? Is it simply a question of turning off the 3G connection?

You shouldn't need to - a wifi connection will always take precedence
over a mobile data connection, at least by popping up a "would you
like to use one of these available wifi?" panel.

>Frankly I'm not sure what I don't understand, but I don't want to
>repeat the screwing I got over my iPhone.

Wait until other providers have got their offerings out, and go from
there.

Or bypass the whole issue by getting the cheaper wifi iPad, and
spending the change on something like a Mifi 3G/wifi hotspot for your
other pocket, or using your current 3G phone as one (iPhone, android,
Nokia s60 at least will all do this).

The downside of this is that you don't get GPS on your iPad unless you
buy a 3G one.

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Duncan Kennedy on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:


> As an aside on that if I may ... am I right in thinking that if you
> have BT Bradband you probably also have access to these Hotspot
> things?
>
> If that is correct, what sort of info do you need to be able to make
> use of such and how do you apply it in practice?
>

I'm on BT Broadband at home and the small print says that Option 3 gets
something like 500MB a month WiFi through hotspots. It also says that
BT Openzone is available once you sign up to Fon (the BT idea that you
give over a bit of your broadband connection to Fon members (not hotspot
ones). I haven't signed up- although it is all done on a completyely
different channel to your normal connection so has no effect on your
bandwidth - they say.

Last week I was sitting in a cafe trying to connect my iPhone to their
own free WiFi when I found a BT one and tried that - it worked. So I
don't *reall have an anser to your question as the iPhone is on Orange
on PAYG (which also has some access rights to somethng Ornage has signed
up to.


--
duncank
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 15:12:49 +0100, nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk
(Duncan Kennedy) wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> You shouldn't need to - a wifi connection will always take precedence
>> over a mobile data connection, at least by popping up a "would you
>> like to use one of these available wifi?" panel.
>>
>Sorry to jump in here but it is really a related question, even if I
>only have an iPhone. I'm happy picking up mail by WiFi anytime on the
>iPhone but I would like to stop it trying to do it on my Orange phone
>connection unless I ask it too. I'm very new to the phone but today I
>made a voice call in a poor signal area then saw a lot of spam emails
>arive without opening Mail.
>
>I probably missed somethng but can I stop mobile data unless I ask for
>it somewhere inthe menus?

yes - Settings, Mail(etc), Fetch New Data. Set Push to Off, and choose
Manually.

Cheers - Jaimie
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