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From: Ben Shimmin on 11 May 2010 15:44 SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com>: [...] > I don't cane the data on my iPhone - but I do use a fair bit - if I > didn't use data, I probably wouldn't have bought an iPhone, IYSWIM, as > they're not actually very good at being a phone. I have to agree with this, sadly. I have an iPhone 3G, and I've had more dropped calls, bad reception, and inability to make calls than I've had with any other mobile. But, really, it's not as bad as that statement makes it sound, and all the other stuff it does so well more than makes up for it. I do wonder whether the alleged next generation iPhone with the casing made from enriched uranium, or whatever it was, will be an improvement in terms of reception and call quality. b. -- <bas(a)bas.me.uk> <URL:http://bas.me.uk/> `Zombies are defined by behavior and can be "explained" by many handy shortcuts: the supernatural, radiation, a virus, space visitors, secret weapons, a Harvard education and so on.' -- Roger Ebert
From: SteveH on 11 May 2010 15:49 Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote: > SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com>: > > [...] > > > I don't cane the data on my iPhone - but I do use a fair bit - if I > > didn't use data, I probably wouldn't have bought an iPhone, IYSWIM, as > > they're not actually very good at being a phone. > > I have to agree with this, sadly. I have an iPhone 3G, and I've had > more dropped calls, bad reception, and inability to make calls than > I've had with any other mobile. But, really, it's not as bad as that > statement makes it sound, and all the other stuff it does so well more > than makes up for it. I think you've got it in terms of signal quality - but it's also a lot harder to use as a phone than the Nokia 6230i and SE K800i I have used for business. Fortunately, the iPhone has my personal SIM in it and nobody ever calls me on that number. > I do wonder whether the alleged next generation iPhone with the casing > made from enriched uranium, or whatever it was, will be an improvement > in terms of reception and call quality. I'm sure the first generation were better than the 3G. Why couldn't Apple have dropped the 3G internals into a 1st gen case? - I really miss the build quality of my 1st gen. -- SteveH
From: zoara on 12 May 2010 06:20 Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > > > > > It also says that > > > BT Openzone is available once you sign up to Fon (the BT idea that > > > you > > > give over a bit of your broadband connection to Fon members (not > > > hotspot > > > ones). > > > > FON is far from BT's idea. > > I don't think I suggested they did - cetrtainly didn't intend to Ah, okay. I was thrown by "the BT idea"... > - but > as far as their blurb is concerned you seem to have to be a BT > customer > to use other BT customers' Home Hub connections Hmmm. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FON > > > > It wasn't that long ago that the large corporate ISPs like BT were > > fighting against FON... > > Well these days they have been boasting of having a million (?) signed > up. Doesn't surprise me. It's a good idea. > > > I haven't signed up- although it is all done on a completyely > > > different channel to your normal connection so has no effect on > > > your > > > bandwidth - they say. > > > > Wireless bandwidth, perhaps. > > > At least it doesn't come off your usage. Oh, I see what you mean. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Duncan Kennedy on 12 May 2010 12:08 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > I much prefer to download my mail by > > landline if appropriate and, if not, by WiFi - onto my Mac mini or > > MBP. > > This ounds like you're saying if you download an email onto the phone > you expect not to be able to also download it onto the Macs? Are you > using POP rather than IMAP? Nope - I'm using POP as that is all that is available to me - but I have it set to leave a copy on the server so that's OK. But as I've said elsewhere, I can get 450 emails at a time for reasons I won't bore you with agan. Frankly that is a bit much to go through on an iPhone so I prefer to download the main overnight stuff on the MBP or Mini as far as possible - so I leave mail off unless I need it at certain times of day. > > I think it might download emails in full over wifi, I'm not sure. > Presumably there's something to stop it getting all of a multi-hundred > megabyte email... So far I haven't proved it either way - I left one with an attachment on the sefrver before leaving today and checked with the phone in a cafe (on wifi) there ws the expected attachment indicator but the actual attachment arrived very quickly - I just don't know if it was already there downloaded. > > > > > Orange is 750MB/month. Which they call unlimited. > > > I presume they don't speak english. > > > > Indeed - except my agreement - PAYG - seems to say 500MB/month mobile > > data. > > I wouldn't be worrying about emails with that sort of limit, but maybe > that's just me. > If it doesn't download attachments then that wouldn't worry me too much - but if I left it on and found a thousand emails downloaded while it was on I wouldn't be all that happy. (I've had the same business account fort years and as I've said before, it is heavily compromised - but important for the moment that I don't change.) -- duncank
From: zoara on 13 May 2010 05:07
Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > > I much prefer to download my mail by > > > landline if appropriate and, if not, by WiFi - onto my Mac mini or > > > MBP. > > > > This ounds like you're saying if you download an email onto the > > phone > > you expect not to be able to also download it onto the Macs? Are you > > using POP rather than IMAP? > > Nope - I'm using POP as that is all that is available to me - but I > have > it set to leave a copy on the server so that's OK. But as I've said > elsewhere, I can get 450 emails at a time for reasons I won't bore you > with agan. Whoa. In that case I can understand your concerns - I hadn't realised you were talking that sort of quantity (apologies if you'd given the figure before - I must have missed it). > If it doesn't download attachments then that wouldn't worry me too > much > - but if I left it on and found a thousand emails downloaded while it > was on I wouldn't be all that happy. It only downloads the latest 50 (I think) emails for each mailbox; any more and the bottom entry is a "load more" button with an indication of the number remaining and the number unread. Not having had to deal with your volumes of mail, I couldn't say exactly how it does this; I think it only downloads mail for the inbox, but if you get 40 on one check and 40 on the next I don't know what it does. So yeah, I take back most of what I said. In your circumstances I would be careful about a 500MB limit... Though if I were in your circumstances I'd also be looking into an IMAP account that can check the POP account for you - that way any filing (and spam checking) done by the clients or the IMAP server would reduce the number of emails arriving on your phone anyway. But that's just me - I haven't done POP in years and could never go back... -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm |