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From: Duncan Kennedy on 13 May 2010 05:25 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > > Nope - I'm using POP as that is all that is available to me - but I > > have > > it set to leave a copy on the server so that's OK. But as I've said > > elsewhere, I can get 450 emails at a time for reasons I won't bore you > > with agan. > > Whoa. In that case I can understand your concerns - I hadn't realised > you were talking that sort of quantity (apologies if you'd given the > figure before - I must have missed it). It was another thread - the main problem of having a business related domain name is that it isn't that easy to change without giving the impression that something has happened to the business. But, on the Mini and MBP, I do use Thunderbird's spam detector, which puts it all in a nice folder in alphabetical order to make it easy to skim down several hundred in less than a minute and wipe them. > > > > > If it doesn't download attachments then that wouldn't worry me too > > much > > - but if I left it on and found a thousand emails downloaded while it > > was on I wouldn't be all that happy. > > It only downloads the latest 50 (I think) emails for each mailbox; any > more and the bottom entry is a "load more" button with an indication of > the number remaining and the number unread. Now that's well minded - I have seen at least some of that (still rather new). What I saw was something like the first 25 - there may even be a setting - must look. Not having had to deal with > your volumes of mail, I couldn't say exactly how it does this; I think > it only downloads mail for the inbox, but if you get 40 on one check and > 40 on the next I don't know what it does. > > So yeah, I take back most of what I said. In your circumstances I would > be careful about a 500MB limit... Though if I were in your circumstances > I'd also be looking into an IMAP account that can check the POP account > for you - that way any filing (and spam checking) done by the clients or > the IMAP server would reduce the number of emails arriving on your phone > anyway. But that's just me - I haven't done POP in years and could never > go back... > Valid comments about IMAP - my main account doesn't offer that - it was set up many years ago when POP was "new" - SMTP being almost the standard at the stime I started. I should explain that I have several ISPs and my main mail account is with my main domain name host rather than my broadband supplier - I should really move more to my dot com domain with another host where I have more freedom, prsobably IMAP and little spam. Are there any issues using IMAP with mobile phone and hot spot connections? -- duncank
From: Woody on 13 May 2010 05:26 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > I much prefer to download my mail by > > > > landline if appropriate and, if not, by WiFi - onto my Mac mini or > > > > MBP. > > > > > > This ounds like you're saying if you download an email onto the > > > phone > > > you expect not to be able to also download it onto the Macs? Are you > > > using POP rather than IMAP? > > > > Nope - I'm using POP as that is all that is available to me - but I > > have > > it set to leave a copy on the server so that's OK. But as I've said > > elsewhere, I can get 450 emails at a time for reasons I won't bore you > > with agan. > > Whoa. In that case I can understand your concerns - I hadn't realised > you were talking that sort of quantity (apologies if you'd given the > figure before - I must have missed it). I would say that if you are dealing with that quantity of mail then the mail app on the iPhone is probably not for you anyway, it is really not good in handling large volumes of mail and really doesn't have the features you would need to deal wth that. Although offhand I wouldn't know how you do deal with that sort of volume of mail on a small interface, in fact I am not sure how you would deal with it on a desktop either, assuming you mean real mail (I probably get in excess of 1000 attempted messages a day, but the majority of that is spam so I never see it) -- Woody
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 13 May 2010 06:08 On 13 May 2010 09:07:11 GMT, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: >Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > >> If it doesn't download attachments then that wouldn't worry me too >> much >> - but if I left it on and found a thousand emails downloaded while it >> was on I wouldn't be all that happy. > >It only downloads the latest 50 (I think) emails for each mailbox; any >more and the bottom entry is a "load more" button with an indication of >the number remaining and the number unread. Settable in the Mail settings, btw. >Not having had to deal with >your volumes of mail, I couldn't say exactly how it does this; I think >it only downloads mail for the inbox, but if you get 40 on one check and >40 on the next I don't know what it does. It'll get all 40 each time. Downloads the headers and first few lines of each, if your mailserver permits such frugality (pop3 will force complete download, I think). Cheers - Jaimie -- Far away is close at hand in images of elsewhere
From: Peter Ceresole on 13 May 2010 06:41 Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > Downloads the headers and first few lines of each, if your mailserver > permits such frugality (pop3 will force complete download, I think). Will it? I use POP3 with Eudora, have a set message size above which it shows me the headers and the first few lines and asks if I want to get the rest. Normally, on ADSL, I don't bother, but I spend some time on dialup and then I set a low size limit. Works well. -- Peter
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 13 May 2010 07:17
On Thu, 13 May 2010 11:41:44 +0100, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: >Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > >> Downloads the headers and first few lines of each, if your mailserver >> permits such frugality (pop3 will force complete download, I think). > >Will it? Apparently not! >I use POP3 with Eudora, have a set message size above which it shows me >the headers and the first few lines and asks if I want to get the rest. > >Normally, on ADSL, I don't bother, but I spend some time on dialup and >then I set a low size limit. Works well. That's cool. Perhaps I'm getting my POP3 and NNTP limitations mixed up? Cheers - Jaimie -- It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it's a scavenger hunt. |