From: Peter Ceresole on
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> That's cool. Perhaps I'm getting my POP3 and NNTP limitations mixed
> up?

That's possible. There's also the fact that not all POP3 servers are
configured the same, but I think that my mail server, pop3.demon.co.uk,
has always worked this way.

Well- 'always' meaning since 1990 or so.

Christ... I can't even remember the date. That date. Not this date...
--
Peter
From: Duncan Kennedy on
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

>
> Downloads the headers and first few lines of each, if your mailserver
> permits such frugality (pop3 will force complete download, I think).
>

Pop 3 does allow just the headers - been using that on some laptops for
a time now and it is OK.

One thing that is curious is that I am now getting Mac spam. I guess my
address must be coming from a choice of this group, a couple of mac
software houses, Amazon or Apple - but the spam has no relation to
anything i"ve bought so it doesn't sound like the established Mac
dealers.


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duncank
From: Woody on
Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:
> > > > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > I much prefer to download my mail by
> > > > > > landline if appropriate and, if not, by WiFi - onto my Mac mini or
> > > > > > MBP.
> > > > >
> > > > > This ounds like you're saying if you download an email onto the
> > > > > phone
> > > > > you expect not to be able to also download it onto the Macs? Are you
> > > > > using POP rather than IMAP?
> > > >
> > > > Nope - I'm using POP as that is all that is available to me - but I
> > > > have
> > > > it set to leave a copy on the server so that's OK. But as I've said
> > > > elsewhere, I can get 450 emails at a time for reasons I won't bore you
> > > > with agan.
> > >
> > > Whoa. In that case I can understand your concerns - I hadn't realised
> > > you were talking that sort of quantity (apologies if you'd given the
> > > figure before - I must have missed it).
> >
> > I would say that if you are dealing with that quantity of mail then the
> > mail app on the iPhone is probably not for you anyway, it is really not
> > good in handling large volumes of mail and really doesn't have the
> > features you would need to deal wth that.
> >
> > Although offhand I wouldn't know how you do deal with that sort of
> > volume of mail on a small interface, in fact I am not sure how you would
> > deal with it on a desktop either, assuming you mean real mail (I
> > probably get in excess of 1000 attempted messages a day, but the
> > majority of that is spam so I never see it)
>
>
> It really isn't difficult on a desktop - or even MBP with an ADSL
> connection. Thunderbird will put it all in a Junk folder in
> alphabetical order and most of it is very obvious.

Oh again, I was at cross purposes. I thought you meant 450 real emails a
day.

As I said, I get over 1000 spams a day but I certainly wouldn't have
that going to my iPhone. I do server filtering of that, and get it down
to about 100, of which only 20 would go to the iPhone, most of which
would be genuine..

Some accounts only go to the home desktop anyway, as they are only of
relevance there,


--
Woody
From: Peter Ceresole on
Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:

> Demon started out with SMTP in both directions

Oh lord, that's true. On the Mac I used Addmail (thank the lord for Alan
Staniforth) plus Eudora- and I'm still using Eudora of course. Plus I
remember using ToadNews and TheNews... And before that, in MSDOS, KA9Q-
which was astonishingly good, actually.

But it all blurs into a Hammer Horror of stuff, until the advent of
Demon's POP3 server, when all of a sudden it became simple and
civilised.
--
Peter
From: Pd on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:
>
> > Demon started out with SMTP in both directions
>
> Oh lord, that's true. On the Mac I used Addmail (thank the lord for Alan
> Staniforth) plus Eudora- and I'm still using Eudora of course. Plus I
> remember using ToadNews and TheNews...

I'd forgotten about that. Ee, them were the days.

> But it all blurs into a Hammer Horror of stuff, until the advent of
> Demon's POP3 server, when all of a sudden it became simple and
> civilised.

Yes, POP3 sounded so exotic. What a concept, pulling down your own mail
rather than prodding their mail server to push it at you.

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Pd