From: Mark on
ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been recomended another
virus checker called
comodo and might give that a try instead.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free 9.0. [1] This
> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install (i.e., uncheck)
> Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, or any of
> the email scanning components.
>
> • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>
> ================
> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security Essentials
> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or Avira AntiVir
> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>
>
> Mark wrote:
> > Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the text body)
> >
> > AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i have also tried
> > turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no difference as
> > the
> > message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement and a web link
> > in the message body)?
> >
> > I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and recieve these. It
> > seesm to be with word file attachements and web links with the message
> > body.
> > Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never arrives?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Is the PDF file an attachment?
> >>
> >> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark wrote:
> >>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a web site
> >>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an email. The word
> >>> file
> >>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples of my work
> >>> can
> >>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new job). The word
> >>> document has also been converted as pdf with the web site link. Both
> >>> document links work fine outside of outlook express.
> >>>
> >>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is not recieved
> >>> and
> >>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to my self to
> >>> proove
> >>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document, with the
> >>> hyperlink
> >>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it works fine?
> >>>
> >>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent virgin message
> >>> fix
> >>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within oultook and still
> >>> it
> >>> wont send the discussed message?
> >>>
> >>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send out my CV
> >>> with
> >>> the web site link, thank you.
> >>>
> >>> I am using:
> >>>
> >>> @virgin.net (email account)
> >>> Outlook express 6
> >>> XP home service pack 2
> >>> Word 2002
> >>> adobe reader 9
> >>> avg free 8.5
> >>> windows firewall
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>
> >> .
>
> .
>
From: Mark on
I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not unistal fully.
Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security Essentials, which has
updated and completed its first scan without any viruses found.

Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent recieved it?

"Mark" wrote:

> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been recomended another
> virus checker called
> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free 9.0. [1] This
> > time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install (i.e., uncheck)
> > Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, or any of
> > the email scanning components.
> >
> > • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
> > http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
> >
> > ================
> > [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security Essentials
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or Avira AntiVir
> > (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
> > both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
> >
> >
> > Mark wrote:
> > > Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the text body)
> > >
> > > AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i have also tried
> > > turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no difference as
> > > the
> > > message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement and a web link
> > > in the message body)?
> > >
> > > I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and recieve these. It
> > > seesm to be with word file attachements and web links with the message
> > > body.
> > > Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never arrives?
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is the PDF file an attachment?
> > >>
> > >> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
> > >> --
> > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mark wrote:
> > >>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a web site
> > >>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an email. The word
> > >>> file
> > >>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples of my work
> > >>> can
> > >>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new job). The word
> > >>> document has also been converted as pdf with the web site link. Both
> > >>> document links work fine outside of outlook express.
> > >>>
> > >>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is not recieved
> > >>> and
> > >>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to my self to
> > >>> proove
> > >>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document, with the
> > >>> hyperlink
> > >>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it works fine?
> > >>>
> > >>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent virgin message
> > >>> fix
> > >>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within oultook and still
> > >>> it
> > >>> wont send the discussed message?
> > >>>
> > >>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send out my CV
> > >>> with
> > >>> the web site link, thank you.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am using:
> > >>>
> > >>> @virgin.net (email account)
> > >>> Outlook express 6
> > >>> XP home service pack 2
> > >>> Word 2002
> > >>> adobe reader 9
> > >>> avg free 8.5
> > >>> windows firewall
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you,
> > >>
> > >> .
> >
> > .
> >
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on
In no certain order...

1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items folder?

2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?

3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your webmail page,
does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?

4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and attach the DOC
file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?

5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
it)?

6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?

[Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]


Mark wrote:
> I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not unistal fully.
> Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security Essentials, which has
> updated and completed its first scan without any viruses found.
>
> Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent recieved it?
>
>> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been recomended another
>> virus checker called
>> comodo and might give that a try instead.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free 9.0. [1]
>>> This
>>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install (i.e., uncheck)
>>> Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, or any
>>> of the email scanning components.
>>>
>>> • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>
>>> ================
>>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security Essentials
>>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or Avira
>>> AntiVir
>>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
>>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the text body)
>>>>
>>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i have also
>>>> tried
>>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no difference
>>>> as
>>>> the
>>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement and a web
>>>> link in the message body)?
>>>>
>>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and recieve these.
>>>> It seesm to be with word file attachements and web links with the
>>>> message
>>>> body.
>>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never arrives?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a web site
>>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an email. The
>>>>>> word
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples of my
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new job). The word
>>>>>> document has also been converted as pdf with the web site link. Both
>>>>>> document links work fine outside of outlook express.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is not
>>>>>> recieved and
>>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to my self to
>>>>>> proove
>>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document, with the
>>>>>> hyperlink
>>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it works
>>>>>> fine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent virgin
>>>>>> message fix
>>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within oultook and
>>>>>> still it
>>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send out my CV
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
>>>>>> Outlook express 6
>>>>>> XP home service pack 2
>>>>>> Word 2002
>>>>>> adobe reader 9
>>>>>> avg free 8.5
>>>>>> windows firewall

From: Mark on
thank you - please find below the answers:

1. Yes

2. No

3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin webmail:

Word - yes to both
PDF - yes to both

3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from virgin webmail:

Word - yes to both
PDF - yes to both

3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin webmail:

Word + pdf in same message- yes to both

5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005 and 360
purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after subscription ended.
Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as included with
packard bell pc).

6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to risk
installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over Christmas 2009). Only
have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time at the minute.
Not intending on purchasing a external drive.

I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat who accesed my
pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a solution,
which they havent as yet.

But after answering your questions i have decided to send the intended
message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but does not arrive
in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of things it must be to do
with outlook on my pc?

Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange problem?


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> In no certain order...
>
> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items folder?
>
> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>
> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your webmail page,
> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>
> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and attach the DOC
> file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?
>
> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
> it)?
>
> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>
> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>
>
> Mark wrote:
> > I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not unistal fully.
> > Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security Essentials, which has
> > updated and completed its first scan without any viruses found.
> >
> > Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent recieved it?
> >
> >> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been recomended another
> >> virus checker called
> >> comodo and might give that a try instead.
> >>
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free 9.0. [1]
> >>> This
> >>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install (i.e., uncheck)
> >>> Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, or any
> >>> of the email scanning components.
> >>>
> >>> • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
> >>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security Essentials
> >>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or Avira
> >>> AntiVir
> >>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
> >>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark wrote:
> >>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the text body)
> >>>>
> >>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i have also
> >>>> tried
> >>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no difference
> >>>> as
> >>>> the
> >>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement and a web
> >>>> link in the message body)?
> >>>>
> >>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and recieve these.
> >>>> It seesm to be with word file attachements and web links with the
> >>>> message
> >>>> body.
> >>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never arrives?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark wrote:
> >>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a web site
> >>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an email. The
> >>>>>> word
> >>>>>> file
> >>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples of my
> >>>>>> work
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new job). The word
> >>>>>> document has also been converted as pdf with the web site link. Both
> >>>>>> document links work fine outside of outlook express.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is not
> >>>>>> recieved and
> >>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to my self to
> >>>>>> proove
> >>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document, with the
> >>>>>> hyperlink
> >>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it works
> >>>>>> fine?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent virgin
> >>>>>> message fix
> >>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within oultook and
> >>>>>> still it
> >>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send out my CV
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am using:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
> >>>>>> Outlook express 6
> >>>>>> XP home service pack 2
> >>>>>> Word 2002
> >>>>>> adobe reader 9
> >>>>>> avg free 8.5
> >>>>>> windows firewall
>
> .
>
From: Mark on
thank you - please find below the answers:

1. Yes

2. No

3 + 4a. Separate messages with no message text, from virgin webmail:

Word - yes to both
PDF - yes to both

3 + 4b. Separate messages with message text + web link, from virgin webmail:

Word - yes to both
PDF - yes to both

3 + 4c. 1 message with message text + web link, from virgin webmail:

Word + pdf in same message- yes to both

5. Norton 2002 (full 12 months with pc purchase), versons 2005 and 360
purchsed later and all removed will norton tool after subscription ended.
Reformated since to windows only (i.e no extra software as included with
packard bell pc).

6. I havent had time to do a back up first and not prepared to risk
installing SP3 until i do so (was going to do it over Christmas 2009). Only
have a CDR drive to back up 11gb and just dont have the time at the minute.
Not intending on purchasing a external drive.

I spent 2hrs with virgin yesterday using their on line chat who accesed my
pc. They could not fix it and said they would come back with a solution,
which they havent as yet.

But after answering your questions i have decided to send the intended
message again from outlook - send, goes into sent folder but does not arrive
in my inbox or at virgin. I think by the sound of things it must be to do
with outlook on my pc?

Hopefully this will shed a bit of light onto this strange problem?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> In no certain order...
>
> 1. Does a copy of the sent message show up in Sent Items folder?
>
> 2. Is the message found in your Virgin.net webmail inbox?
>
> 3. If you send the same PDF file as an attachment from your webmail page,
> does the message & attachment show up in either inbox?
>
> 4. If you do not convert the Word document to a PDF file and attach the DOC
> file to an email, does the message arrive in either inbox?
>
> 5. Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
> it)?
>
> 6. Why hasn't WinXP SP3 been installed yet?
>
> [Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.]
>
>
> Mark wrote:
> > I have unistalled AVG using their removal tool as i did not unistal fully.
> > Changed my mind and installed the Microsoft Security Essentials, which has
> > updated and completed its first scan without any viruses found.
> >
> > Afterwards i then re-sent the message and still havent recieved it?
> >
> >> ok, thank you - i will reinstall tonight. I have been recomended another
> >> virus checker called
> >> comodo and might give that a try instead.
> >>
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>> Uninstall AVG & reboot, then do a fresh install of AVG Free 9.0. [1]
> >>> This
> >>> time select the CUSTOM install option and do NOT install (i.e., uncheck)
> >>> Linkscanner, Search-Shield, Active Surf-Shield, Security toolbar, or any
> >>> of the email scanning components.
> >>>
> >>> • Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
> >>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>> [1] Or consider replacing AVG with Microsoft Security Essentials
> >>> (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/default.aspx) or Avira
> >>> AntiVir
> >>> (http://www.free-av.com/en/trialpay_download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.htm),
> >>> both free and much more reliable than AVG IMHO.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark wrote:
> >>>> Yes, the pdf file is an attachment (with a web link in the text body)
> >>>>
> >>>> AVG is configured to set to scan incoming emails only - i have also
> >>>> tried
> >>>> turning this off and resending the message, but i makes no difference
> >>>> as
> >>>> the
> >>>> message still does not arrive (with a word file attachement and a web
> >>>> link in the message body)?
> >>>>
> >>>> I dont think the pdf file is a problem as i can send and recieve these.
> >>>> It seesm to be with word file attachements and web links with the
> >>>> message
> >>>> body.
> >>>> Thus if i attach a pdf file with this combination it never arrives?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Is the PDF file an attachment?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is AVG configured to scan incoming and outgoing mail?
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark wrote:
> >>>>>> I am having problems trying to send a word document (with a web site
> >>>>>> hyperlink) and the same link in the message body of an email. The
> >>>>>> word
> >>>>>> file
> >>>>>> is my CV and the link relates to my web site where examples of my
> >>>>>> work
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>> be found (i.e nothing dodgy, im just looking for a new job). The word
> >>>>>> document has also been converted as pdf with the web site link. Both
> >>>>>> document links work fine outside of outlook express.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The message will send (can see the progress bar), but it is not
> >>>>>> recieved and
> >>>>>> does not show up on the virgin server? I have sent this to my self to
> >>>>>> proove
> >>>>>> this. If i re-send the message without the word document, with the
> >>>>>> hyperlink
> >>>>>> removed from the message body and only the pdf attached, it works
> >>>>>> fine?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have enabled pop3 on the virgin server, used the recent virgin
> >>>>>> message fix
> >>>>>> tool and un-checked "do not allow attachements" within oultook and
> >>>>>> still it
> >>>>>> wont send the discussed message?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please can you help me to fix this as i really need to send out my CV
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> the web site link, thank you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am using:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @virgin.net (email account)
> >>>>>> Outlook express 6
> >>>>>> XP home service pack 2
> >>>>>> Word 2002
> >>>>>> adobe reader 9
> >>>>>> avg free 8.5
> >>>>>> windows firewall
>
> .
>
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