From: Erilar on
<BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net> wrote:
> Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> writes:
>> <BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net> wrote:
>
>> Oh, when I'm creating something, I'd be doing it on my home
> > computer.
>> What I was thinking of doing with the iPad was carrying along
>> information created at home that I might need somewhere I'd only have
>> the iPad with me and might need to not only refer to, but to edit
>> slightly, such as travel info and bibliographies. It sounds as if
> > that
>> would be feasible.
>
> I think so. Again, try using Pages at home and see if it works for
> you. Then go to an Apple Store and spend a few minutes, now that
> you're familiar with Pages, and see how it works on the iPad. It's
> really pretty slick.
>
> [iPad]
>>> I'm not in a terrible rush and may wait for the first update,
> > > whatever
>>> it adds (hopefully a front facing camera).
>>>
>> I like to use my camera as a camera 8-). I also have so much music on
> > my
>
> So do I. But I like to use computers for video chatting. I wouldn't
> use an iPad for taking photos - what an awkward camera that would be!
>
>> iPod that I won't be trying to load it on the iPad as well. The
> > music
>> in the iPad will be mostly sheet music. It's a lot lighter than a
>> collection of music books!
>
> If you're carrying the iPod and the iPad around both, I suppose
> there's no reason for the music to be on both.

The iPod is so little that it goes many places I'd never take the iPad,
such as walking with my dog.


--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
From: Megabyte on

On 10-07-01 9:28 AM, in article
siegman-19D649.08281001072010(a)sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu, "AES"
<siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:

> In article
> <1415279927299639984.702888drache-chibardun.netinvalid(a)news.eternal-sept
> ember.org>,
> Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>
>> What I was thinking of doing with the iPad was carrying along
>> information created at home that I might need somewhere I'd only have
>> the iPad with me and might need to not only refer to, but to edit
>> slightly, such as travel info and bibliographies. It sounds as if that
>> would be feasible.
>
> That's the way I could see myself using an iPad also: All my primary
> working tools, all of my primary files, always on my home-base computer
> (which is in fact a laptop, and goes with me on longer trips when that's
> necessary, but normally stays connected to a bunch of peripherals on my
> physical desktop at my home base).
>
> Then, occasionally, for short jaunts, dump a subset of my files onto the
> iPad, with one simple drag and drop, to be read or studied and maybe
> slightly altered during the time away from home, and immediately dumped
> back to the primary home laptop in the same way on return.
>
> From everything I've read thus far, that's not the way the iPad works.
> You can't just plug it into your home computer with a USB or Firewire
> cable (or a flash drive); drag and drop files to it with one simple
> mouse action; have access to this stuff with (possibly simplified or
> slower) versions of your primary tools (_including non-Apple tools_) on
> the iPad while you're on the road; and reverse the process when you're
> back.
>
> Be glad to be shown I'm wrong on this . . .

Actually you can achieve what you want by using either QuickOffice or
DocstoGo on the iPad and simply using something compatible with Office
formats (.doc or .docx) on the Mac side. Both QuickOffice and DocstoGo will
open and save files to Google Docs, Dropbox, box.net or MobileMe. You
simply use one of those as your document repository on the Mac and you can
then access, edit and save your documents from either your iPad or Mac.
Unfortunately Pages on the iPad did not make it this simple, you have to
email or transfer documents using iTunes but perhaps capabilities similar to
QuickOffice or DocstoGo will be added in a later version.

From: AES on
In article <C852775E.2BCB0%Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com>,
Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote:

> > . . . Occasionally, for short jaunts, dump a subset of my files onto the
> > iPad, with one simple drag and drop, to be read or studied and maybe
> > slightly altered during the time away from home, and immediately dumped
> > back to the primary home laptop in the same way on return.
> >
> > From everything I've read thus far, that's not the way the iPad works.
> >
> > Be glad to be shown I'm wrong on this . . .

> Actually you can achieve what you want by using either QuickOffice or
> DocstoGo on the iPad and simply using something compatible with Office
> formats (.doc or .docx) on the Mac side.

Not what I want to do or what I think many others would want to do.

I'm going to a meeting at location XX, to discuss and interact about a
specific topic YY.

All my relevant files on topic Y -- text files, reprints and reports (in
rtf or pdf formats); image files (jpeg, tiff, gif, pdf, png); audio
files (various); maybe a spreadsheet or two, or a catalog file or two,
or a presentation or two --all are, appropriately, located in
appropriately labelled subfolders, within a master folder named "Topic
YY".

(Oh, and I also want to bring along my master folder on "Topic ZZ",
since I might get to get at a bit of it on the flight home.)

So, I'd like to select those two folders, and ***drag and drop them***
from my home base computer onto an iPad, in **one*** single action. Why
would anyone ever want to do anything different?!? Why should I, or
they, ever have to?!?

> Unfortunately Pages on the iPad did not make it this simple, you have to
> email or transfer documents using iTunes but perhaps capabilities similar to
> QuickOffice or DocstoGo will be added in a later version.

What the hell does iTunes have to do with this? File operations like
these are completely and totally Finder operations, and always have
been. Why can't Finder do them in this case?

[All of the above questions are of course totally rhetorical -- and the
answers as to "Why?" have nothing to do with iPad technical
considerations, and everything to do with commerce and market control.]
From: Megabyte on

On 10-07-01 8:21 PM, in article
siegman-AD4802.19214801072010(a)bmedcfsc-srv02.tufts.ad.tufts.edu, "AES"
<siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:

> In article <C852775E.2BCB0%Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com>,
> Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote:
>
>>> . . . Occasionally, for short jaunts, dump a subset of my files onto the
>>> iPad, with one simple drag and drop, to be read or studied and maybe
>>> slightly altered during the time away from home, and immediately dumped
>>> back to the primary home laptop in the same way on return.
>>>
>>> From everything I've read thus far, that's not the way the iPad works.
>>>
>>> Be glad to be shown I'm wrong on this . . .
>
>> Actually you can achieve what you want by using either QuickOffice or
>> DocstoGo on the iPad and simply using something compatible with Office
>> formats (.doc or .docx) on the Mac side.
>
> Not what I want to do or what I think many others would want to do.
>
> I'm going to a meeting at location XX, to discuss and interact about a
> specific topic YY.
>
> All my relevant files on topic Y -- text files, reprints and reports (in
> rtf or pdf formats); image files (jpeg, tiff, gif, pdf, png); audio
> files (various); maybe a spreadsheet or two, or a catalog file or two,
> or a presentation or two --all are, appropriately, located in
> appropriately labelled subfolders, within a master folder named "Topic
> YY".
>
> (Oh, and I also want to bring along my master folder on "Topic ZZ",
> since I might get to get at a bit of it on the flight home.)
>
> So, I'd like to select those two folders, and ***drag and drop them***
> from my home base computer onto an iPad, in **one*** single action. Why
> would anyone ever want to do anything different?!? Why should I, or
> they, ever have to?!?
>
>> Unfortunately Pages on the iPad did not make it this simple, you have to
>> email or transfer documents using iTunes but perhaps capabilities similar to
>> QuickOffice or DocstoGo will be added in a later version.
>
> What the hell does iTunes have to do with this? File operations like
> these are completely and totally Finder operations, and always have
> been. Why can't Finder do them in this case?
>
> [All of the above questions are of course totally rhetorical -- and the
> answers as to "Why?" have nothing to do with iPad technical
> considerations, and everything to do with commerce and market control.]

Sounds more like you have a personal hate on for the iPad and I'm certainly
not here to try to change your opinion. If the device is not for you then
choose a tool that is. The iPad seems to be working out for me and 2.5
million others but I'm not here to argue that it is for everyone. This
thread though was about the use of Pages (Word Processing) on the Mac and
iPad not on transferring every conceivable file type known to man.

From: AES on
In article <C852C770.2BF3D%Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com>,
Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote:

> Sounds more like you have a personal hate on for the iPad . . .

"Disappointment at its limitations" would be more like it.

(Enhanced by the fact that these limitations are not at all necessary or
technical in nature, but IMHO are based entirely on crass motives of
control and commerce -- and NOT on "ease of use" or anything like that.)