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From: Megabyte on 2 Jul 2010 11:47 On 10-07-02 9:03 AM, in article siegman-2AD559.08032702072010(a)bmedcfsc-srv02.tufts.ad.tufts.edu, "AES" <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > In article <C852C770.2BF3D%Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com>, > Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote: > >> Sounds more like you have a personal hate on for the iPad . . . > > "Disappointment at its limitations" would be more like it. > > (Enhanced by the fact that these limitations are not at all necessary or > technical in nature, but IMHO are based entirely on crass motives of > control and commerce -- and NOT on "ease of use" or anything like that.) Well I suspect there will be Android or other tablet alternatives on the scene shortly that may resolve your concerns. The current iPad is simply iteration #1, it will be interesting to see where future competition will take it. Right now competitors are playing catch up but some healthy competition in the tablet space will be nice to see and only benefit consumers in the longer term whether they be iPad or competitor product end users.
From: BreadWithSpam on 2 Jul 2010 13:06 AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> writes: > In article <C852C770.2BF3D%Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com>, > Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote: > > > Sounds more like you have a personal hate on for the iPad . . . > > "Disappointment at its limitations" would be more like it. > > (Enhanced by the fact that these limitations are not at all necessary or > technical in nature, but IMHO are based entirely on crass motives of > control and commerce -- and NOT on "ease of use" or anything like that.) While I have no doubt that there's some control and commerce motives involved, I don't think they're necessarily as crass or evil as you seem to. One of the most important selling points for a phone is appliance-like stability. People will not put up with a phone which needs to be defragged or rebooted all the time or which requires the use of your local computer expert to fix things or make them work. The iPad is being sold under the same notion - it's supposed to be appliance-like in that way. One of the tradeoffs for that is that it has to be simple enough that it'd be difficult for folks to mess it up. Folks mess up their desktop machines all the time, especially folks who are not computer-savvy or who don't have IT departments on hand. It seems clear that Apple is not targeting the iPad as a general-purpose do-serious-work machine. For my own sake, I think that's too bad, as I'd like it to be one. For the sake of the success of the device, though, I think they made the right choice. Alternative makers who've tried putting a desktop OS onto a tablet have pretty much failed miserably. It should be fascinating to see what comes up in the Android universe, and once HP starts serious work with Palm's WebOS. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
From: Erilar on 2 Jul 2010 13:07 Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote: > On 10-07-01 8:21 PM, in article > > Sounds more like you have a personal hate on for the iPad and I'm > certainly > not here to try to change your opinion. If the device is not for you > then > choose a tool that is. The iPad seems to be working out for me and > 2.5 > million others but I'm not here to argue that it is for everyone. > This > thread though was about the use of Pages (Word Processing) on the Mac > and > iPad not on transferring every conceivable file type known to man. Exactly. I've already discovered a way to get my sheet music on here: as jpegs in an iPhoto "album". It's not perfect, but it works while I scout around for an alternative that will let me have a page of contents, too. After all, I have to scan the music to get it onto any computer, which results in a .jpg. So what I'm looking for is something to get documents on here, hopefully in some kind of folders. Can the iPad Pages app do that? That's the kind of thing I need to know. The real crux of my problem is that I'm overdue for a WP upgrade, but need something that will open old AW6 files automatically and just make a newer version, the way AW6 opens older AW and ClarisWorks files. This seems to limit my choice to iWorks, which comes with 2 things I have no earthly use for and Pages, which I apparently need. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
From: BreadWithSpam on 2 Jul 2010 13:19 Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> writes: > So what I'm looking for is something to get documents on here, hopefully > in some kind of folders. Can the iPad Pages app do that? That's the kind > of thing I need to know. I recommend Dropbox. Set up your folders in your Dropbox folder however you like. The latest update of Dropbox for iPhone/iPad now allows you to send documents to other apps (on the iPhone under iOS 4, in the same way that you can do on the iPad). In just the way that the other poster was suggesting, if you have a folder full of related files, drop that folder into your DropBox and it goes, intact as a folder, to being accessible on your iPhone/iPad. Because of the way iOS sandboxes apps and their documents, though, you won't be able to work on them with other apps in-situ on the iOS device, but you will be able to read most of them and, if you really need to edit one of the files, you can - just not in place. And that's all just gravy. I can't recommend Dropbox highly enough for general use - I keep a huge set of important files synced between my desktop and my MBP using it and it's saved my butt a few times. > The real crux of my problem is that I'm overdue for a WP upgrade, but > need something that will open old AW6 files automatically and just make > a newer version, the way AW6 opens older AW and ClarisWorks files. This > seems to limit my choice to iWorks, which comes with 2 things I have no > earthly use for and Pages, which I apparently need. Given the pretty low price for iWork (not iWorks), even if you never use two of the three packages, it's still a competitive price for the product. Pages is quite good and it alone is, IMO, worth iWork's price. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
From: Megabyte on 2 Jul 2010 14:42
On 10-07-02 11:19 AM, in article yobtyohu7h4.fsf(a)panix2.panix.com, "BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net" <BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net> wrote: > Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> writes: > >> So what I'm looking for is something to get documents on here, hopefully >> in some kind of folders. Can the iPad Pages app do that? That's the kind >> of thing I need to know. > > I recommend Dropbox. Set up your folders in your Dropbox folder > however you like. The latest update of Dropbox for iPhone/iPad now > allows you to send documents to other apps (on the iPhone under iOS 4, > in the same way that you can do on the iPad). > > In just the way that the other poster was suggesting, if you have a > folder full of related files, drop that folder into your DropBox and > it goes, intact as a folder, to being accessible on your iPhone/iPad. > Because of the way iOS sandboxes apps and their documents, though, you > won't be able to work on them with other apps in-situ on the iOS > device, but you will be able to read most of them and, if you really > need to edit one of the files, you can - just not in place. > > And that's all just gravy. I can't recommend Dropbox highly enough > for general use - I keep a huge set of important files synced between > my desktop and my MBP using it and it's saved my butt a few times. > >> The real crux of my problem is that I'm overdue for a WP upgrade, but >> need something that will open old AW6 files automatically and just make >> a newer version, the way AW6 opens older AW and ClarisWorks files. This >> seems to limit my choice to iWorks, which comes with 2 things I have no >> earthly use for and Pages, which I apparently need. > > Given the pretty low price for iWork (not iWorks), even if you never > use two of the three packages, it's still a competitive price for the > product. Pages is quite good and it alone is, IMO, worth iWork's price. > As BWS says: DropBox combined with Pages on the iPad and iWork on the Mac should do what you'd like. I just created a test document in iWork 09 on my MacBook Pro, saved the completed document in to my DropBox folder on the MacBook Pro, then opened Dropbox on the iPad, located the file and chose to open it in Pages on the iPad. Worked like a charm. You end up using Dropbox as the intermediary to get files across. |