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From: Wes Groleau on 3 Jul 2010 09:50 On 07-03-2010 00:38, Richard Maine wrote: > That's pretty much my viewpoint. I suppose the iPad is probably fine for > some people. It just doesn't happen to be what I want. I happen to want > a general-purpose computer. The iPad is more of a device for running > apps. It has been described as a larger iPhone, and that seems to me not If you want a bit of both, try adding a Bluetooth mouse and a Bluetooth keyboard to a Modbook. -- Wes Groleau Angry disruption in class http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1455
From: Erilar on 3 Jul 2010 11:55 Richard Maine <nospam(a)see.signature> wrote: > <BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net> wrote: > >> But I can easily see how the iPad's restrictions help make it >> an easier, simpler, more reliable consumer device. Just because >> those restrictions would make it less useful to me doesn't mean >> that I can't see the sense in it. Oh, it seems to do what I expected of it quite well; I'm just a bit greedy. > > That's pretty much my viewpoint. I suppose the iPad is probably fine > for > some people. It just doesn't happen to be what I want. I happen to > want > a general-purpose computer. The iPad is more of a device for running > apps. It has been described as a larger iPhone, and that seems to me > not > far off. There might or might not be "an app for that". If there is, > fine, but if there isn't, you are out of luck. I can see how an awful > lot of people would be happy with such a thing (and obviously a lot of > people are). If I'm traveling in my own car, I'm likely to take the MacBook Pro along, but there times when just a shelf of books, e-mail, my music, and my web browser are all I really need, and the size/weight difference is a major factor on a long trip that involves airplanes! > To me, that business about being a device for running apps explains > the > app-centric nature of the file system interface pretty well. Never having had one of those really fancy phones, this is taking me a while to get used to, but at least it means I'm not bothered by useless(to me) programs such as my computer came burdened with. > > As I want a general-purpose computer, I think I'll be getting a > Macbook > when I finally give up on my existing MacBook Pro (which is somewhat > ill, but not yet quite ill enough that I've decided I can't stand it > any > more). Oh, I can't imagine giving that up! > > But if my 80-year-old mother ends up wanting something portable > (actually not too likely, but it could happen), I'm likely to > recommend > an iPad for her as being cheaper, smaller, and doing what she'd want > to > do. Well, I'm 76 now, but then I had a head start: I was a ham radio operator back before transisters, and I'm a good student 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
From: Richard Maine on 3 Jul 2010 13:00 Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > Richard Maine <nospam(a)see.signature> wrote: > > As I want a general-purpose computer, I think I'll be getting a > > Macbook when I finally give up on my existing MacBook Pro (which is > > somewhat ill, but not yet quite ill enough that I've decided I can't > > stand it any more). > > Oh, I can't imagine giving that up! That's because you haven't had to fight with mine. It's sort of a hand-me-down from my daughter. I had recently bought a MacBook when my daughter's older MacBook Pro started becomming to unreliable. She needed something she could count on for school work. My portable was just for when I was on trips (I have a nice iMac at home). I didn't want to buy another new laptop just then. So we swapped. The non-pro MacBook was enough newer than the Pro that it was a step up for her. The Pro I now have is mostly a pain to charge. The power connector is half fried (my daughter was pretty hard on computers in her mid teens). You have to "fiddle" with it a fair amount to get it to charge. It would cost more than the machine is worth to get it repaired (amost certainly a motherboard replacement) and I'd still have a battered (literally - it has some pretty sizeable dents) older machine. The battery life is low enough that it seems like I spend nearly as much time fiddling with getting it to charge as using it; not really quite so, but it seems that way at times. Yes, I could buy a new battery, but I'm thinking that's more than I want to put into the machine. > > But if my 80-year-old mother ends up wanting something portable > > (actually not too likely, but it could happen), I'm likely to > > recommend an iPad for her as being cheaper, smaller, and doing what > > she'd want to do. > > Well, I'm 76 now, but then I had a head start: I was a ham radio > operator back before transisters, and I'm a good student 8-) My mom is not really a "computer person." She likes being able to get email from her kids. On occasion she uses a word processor. -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: erilar on 3 Jul 2010 13:37 In article <1jl1sbq.s42cb8dkrri8N%nospam(a)see.signature>, nospam(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > > > Richard Maine <nospam(a)see.signature> wrote: > > > > As I want a general-purpose computer, I think I'll be getting a > > > Macbook when I finally give up on my existing MacBook Pro (which is > > > somewhat ill, but not yet quite ill enough that I've decided I can't > > > stand it any more). > > > > Oh, I can't imagine giving that up! > > That's because you haven't had to fight with mine. If I had something like that, I'd definitely want an upgrade! Mine is a fairly new MacBook Pro Intel with 2 gigs of RAM, a lot more than my old G4 had, and I still manage to freeze my graphics program when I'm doing too many things at once. 2 gigs was all I could get in this size (15") at the time, however. > > > > But if my 80-year-old mother ends up wanting something portable > > > (actually not too likely, but it could happen), I'm likely to > > > recommend an iPad for her as being cheaper, smaller, and doing what > > > she'd want to do. > > > > Well, I'm 76 now, but then I had a head start: I was a ham radio > > operator back before transisters, and I'm a good student 8-) > > My mom is not really a "computer person." She likes being able to get > email from her kids. On occasion she uses a word processor. Well, I don't know about the word processor part, but she's probably a good customer for an iPad. I have a couple friends near my age who'd be very happy with one. One has a computer that regularly defeats her, and the other has to use one she doesn't really understand at the library 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist http://www.mosaictelecom.com/~erilarlo
From: erilar on 3 Jul 2010 13:39
In article <i0nf77$3b7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 07-03-2010 00:38, Richard Maine wrote: > > That's pretty much my viewpoint. I suppose the iPad is probably fine for > > some people. It just doesn't happen to be what I want. I happen to want > > a general-purpose computer. The iPad is more of a device for running > > apps. It has been described as a larger iPhone, and that seems to me not > > If you want a bit of both, try adding a Bluetooth mouse and a Bluetooth > keyboard to a Modbook. My Bluetooth keyboard is just barely too old for my iPad 8-( That would be SO handy at times! -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist http://www.mosaictelecom.com/~erilarlo |