From: AES on 2 Jul 2010 15:08 I think we pretty much agree on all of the following (from our recent exchange on this newsgroup) -- and I'm happy to see that I'm not totally alone, or way far out on the deep end, in these views. ================================================ In article <yoby6dtu82e.fsf(a)panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote: > AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> writes: > > In article <C852C770.2BF3D%Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com>, > > Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote: > > > > > Sounds more like you have a personal hate on for the iPad . . . > > > > "Disappointment at its limitations" would be more like it. > > > > (Enhanced by the fact that these limitations are not at all necessary or > > technical in nature, but IMHO are based entirely on crass motives of > > control and commerce -- and NOT on "ease of use" or anything like that.) > > While I have no doubt that there's some control and commerce motives > involved, I don't think they're necessarily as crass or evil as you > seem to. One of the most important selling points for a phone is > appliance-like stability. People will not put up with a phone which > needs to be defragged or rebooted all the time or which requires the > use of your local computer expert to fix things or make them work. > The iPad is being sold under the same notion - it's supposed to be > appliance-like in that way. One of the tradeoffs for that is that it > has to be simple enough that it'd be difficult for folks to mess it > up. Folks mess up their desktop machines all the time, especially > folks who are not computer-savvy or who don't have IT departments on > hand. > > It seems clear that Apple is not targeting the iPad as a > general-purpose do-serious-work machine. For my own sake, I think > that's too bad, as I'd like it to be one. For the sake of the success > of the device, though, I think they made the right choice. > Alternative makers who've tried putting a desktop OS onto a tablet > have pretty much failed miserably. > > It should be fascinating to see what comes up in the Android universe, > and once HP starts serious work with Palm's WebOS.
From: AES on 2 Jul 2010 15:11 In article <yobtyohu7h4.fsf(a)panix2.panix.com>, BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote: > > Given the pretty low price for iWork (not iWorks), even if you never > use two of the three packages, it's still a competitive price for the > product. Pages is quite good and it alone is, IMO, worth iWork's price. > And, Numbers and Keynote may be useful if you ever have to open or read PowerPoint or Excel files that may sent to you -- and once opened, you can almost always print 'em to PDF, and ditch the .ppt or .xls originals.
From: Erilar on 2 Jul 2010 17:26 Megabyte <Megabyte.NoSPAM(a)sent.com> wrote: 4, >> >> >> >> Given the pretty low price for iWork (not iWorks), even if you never >> use two of the three packages, it's still a competitive price for the >> product. Pages is quite good and it alone is, IMO, worth iWork's > > price. >> > > As BWS says: DropBox combined with Pages on the iPad and iWork on the > Mac > should do what you'd like. I just created a test document in iWork 09 > on my > MacBook Pro, saved the completed document in to my DropBox folder on > the > MacBook Pro, then opened Dropbox on the iPad, located the file and > chose to > open it in Pages on the iPad. Worked like a charm. You end up using > Dropbox as the intermediary to get files across. OK, that sounds good. Apparently Dropbox does for documents what iTunes does for photos, if I understand correctly. .? Does it or Pages let me have folders on the iPad? -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
From: BreadWithSpam on 2 Jul 2010 17:36 Erilar <drache(a)chibardun.netinvalid> writes: > > MacBook Pro, saved the completed document in to my DropBox folder > > on the MacBook Pro, then opened Dropbox on the iPad, located the > > file and chose to open it in Pages on the iPad. Worked like a > > charm. You end up using Dropbox as the intermediary to get files > > across. > OK, that sounds good. Apparently Dropbox does for documents what iTunes > does for photos, if I understand correctly. .? > Does it or Pages let me have folders on the iPad? It's not really much like iTunes for photos. But the end result is that it does allow you to save files right into your normal and preferred directlry structure on your desktop and then access those files, retaining that structure and without having to do anything special or do any explicit syncing or whatnot, from either another desktop machine, the web, or -- and here's what you're looking at - via their app on your iOS machine. Again, you don't have a filesystem (well, you do, but you don't have access to it) on your iOS machine. The OS doesn't allow users or their apps to have general access to a common filesystem. Each app has its own private area of the filesystem. Dropbox lets you access files stored on dropbox's server, and they may be organized however you like on that server. And the dropbox app, when you use it to browse that server's filesystem, lets you send any given file you look at over to whatever app on your iOS machine which can handle it. In the case of a Pages doc, there you go. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
From: BreadWithSpam on 2 Jul 2010 17:37
AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> writes: > In article <yobtyohu7h4.fsf(a)panix2.panix.com>, > BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote: > > Given the pretty low price for iWork (not iWorks), even if you never > > use two of the three packages, it's still a competitive price for the > > product. Pages is quite good and it alone is, IMO, worth iWork's price. > And, Numbers and Keynote may be useful if you ever have to open or read > PowerPoint or Excel files that may sent to you -- and once opened, you > can almost always print 'em to PDF, and ditch the .ppt or .xls originals. Mostly pretty true, though I've found that OpenOffice seems generally to do a better job on .xls files than does Numbers. Nevertheless, I prefer and use Numbers myself most of the time when I need to use a spreadsheet - which is pretty much every day nowadays. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. |